Full Version: Gravostyle Software
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#1]
8 Mar 2006
To: ALL
This is a post from GB engraver from another thread. We can move threads but not posts, so here it is.
Harvey,
I have Gravostyle5 which I got with my IS400 Gift machine.
Can you tell me why you like 98 better, and let us know the differences?
Feel free to move this to another thread if it is not appropriate here. Thanks
Greg
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2]
8 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#1] 8 Mar 2006
My friend has a few machines and uses both 98, Gift and 5.
I tried to use 5 and got stuck because I could not get out of a function, then found out that it was the only thing there was.
She says that there is a lot more available in 98. It is what I use and except for a few frustrating bugs, it is quite good.
From: GBengraver [#3]
8 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2] 8 Mar 2006
I really struggle with some of the G5 feature like columns in particular.
When I bought my machine NH sent me 98 by mistake and made them send me G5. Maybe that was a mistake.
Greg
From: JayBeeOz [#4]
9 Mar 2006
To: ALL
I agree with Harvey that 98 is better than G5. I recently looked at upgrading to G5 so I could drive my Laser and IS400 from the same software. I borrowed a Dongle from my Gravograph Techs and had a play with G5. I was less than impressed with the whole package. I hate the new layout, the HUGE buttons makes it look like kids software, and the Blue @ that constantly flashes is downright annoying. It felt 'Clunky' compared to 98 and the worse thing was that, while I could drive the laser with it, I could only run one machine at a time unless I had two installations of G5 in seperate Folders
I did like the job timer and nesting function, but apart from those, there was nothing to entice me to upgrade. G98 does have some annoying bugs, but you get used to them and being aware of them allows you to compensate.
Harvey, I have a problem when Cylindrical engraving where if I change somthing on a job and resend it , the machine has a bit of a cow, and rotates alot faster than previously, so much so that the gearing can slip and you lose registration. If I ever had to resend a job I would save it, shutdown and restart G98 and then send the job and it would run fine.
I recently discovered that if I change the Diameter before resending, it works fine. Even changing it by .001mm which makes no difference to the rotation, is enough to stop it from having a hissy. Have you experienced this problem with yours?
John
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#5]
9 Mar 2006
To: JayBeeOz [#4] 9 Mar 2006
John,
I use Gravostyle98 for my IS400 Volume and I have not experienced that problem on my cylindrical attachment jobs.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6]
9 Mar 2006
To: JayBeeOz [#4] 9 Mar 2006
I have a plain IS400 not the volume, so I do not know.
Weird bug. Have you tried saving the file then reloading it?
The other thing that might get you out of it is to send a job with a different plate size and just a period, then reload the job and send it. The different plate size guarantees a home and hopefully a reset.
Do the jobs contain different text or are they just copies? To do a copy you just need to press start on the pendant again without resending the job.
It sounds like changing the diameter .001" forces it to do a reset. Ahhh, the joys of a bug.
Is it build 008? That is the latest and most stable version, from what I know.
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From: GBengraver [#8]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#7] 10 Mar 2006
We do alot of plates for cup bases that we add names and years to as they come up.
With my Vangard 3400 it was simple to set up colums leaving spaces for future years, save the layout and recall job as needed.
What you are explaining seems to not meet those needs, but your way looks like it would work fine for one and done column jobs.
Thank you for the tip.
Greg
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From: GBengraver [#10]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#9] 10 Mar 2006
Are you talking about doing this in the GS98 / Gs5 software or in Corel and then bring into the GS program?
I'm alittle confused.
Thanks,
Greg
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From: GBengraver [#12]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#11] 10 Mar 2006
I'm not sure if G5 has that feature or not as I have never tried it in G5.
I will though as the column feature in G5 is turning my hair grey and I'm getting tired of hearing my main engraver whinning about it. :'-(
Thanks again for the tip,
Greg
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#13]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#11] 10 Mar 2006
The only problem/feature with text in a box, is that changing the box does a global rescale of the text in the box. It will change the height and condensation of the text. The height sometimes is a good thing, the overall condensation is not. Just wish that the global rescale was a select/unselect feature.
Gravostyle 98.
From: GBengraver [#14]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#11] 10 Mar 2006
Bruce,
Just tried to do what you discribed that you do in gs98 and I cannot do it in g5.
I tried to pull a box with the text tool, which is what I do in Corel to do columns, but you cannot do it in GS5.
Darn.
Greg
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From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#15]
10 Mar 2006
To: GBengraver [#14] 10 Mar 2006
In GS98 you type in the line of text, then go to, (I think). the lower right dot on the text utilities pinwheel, and select 'Text in a box'. That puts you in the manual mode and sets up the free floating box for the text.
How, or if, GS 5 does that is beyond me.
From: GBengraver [#16]
10 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#15] 10 Mar 2006
Thanks Harvey I'll try that.
Greg
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From: geebeau [#18]
10 Mar 2006
To: ALL
I have the IS400 with Gravo '98. At times, and for no particular reason, the computer shuts down. It never seems to happen while engraving a job, tho.
I had the power supply in the computer replaced, but it did it once after that.
By process of elimination, I have kept the computer running without loading any program, then with G98 running and it has not crashed.
For some particular reason, I seem to generate a lot of sparks... static electricity :)
I wonder if that could have anything to do with it.
Any of you have the same problem?
Thanx,
Steve
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From: JayBeeOz [#19]
11 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6] 11 Mar 2006
Harvey
It is build 8 and it doesnt happen when repeating copies from the Pendant.
It only happens when you send a job, then change something in the job, whether that is part of the copy or a setting i.e. amount of Z lift, orientation etc, and resend. The only way around it is to change the diameter or close the job and reopen it... Its not a big deal, I know its there and just work around it if I have to.
John
From: JayBeeOz [#20]
11 Mar 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#5] 11 Mar 2006
David
I'm not 100% convinced that it is software related. I think it has something to do with the Job Buffer of the main board. The fact that you don't have the problem helps to re-enforce that. Or It could be some background software interfering with the download. I had an IS300 that would occasionally go haywire, It would engrave normally then all of a sudden it would go off, mirroring text and engraving lines all over the place like it was possesed! I change the antivirus software that I was using, and it never did it again after that... As I said to Harvey, I know that the bug is there and i just work around it if needed. Even with its odd quirks I still prefer 98 over G5.
John
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