Full Version: Gravostyle Software
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#5]
9 Mar 2006
To: JayBeeOz [#4] 9 Mar 2006
John,
I use Gravostyle98 for my IS400 Volume and I have not experienced that problem on my cylindrical attachment jobs.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6]
9 Mar 2006
To: JayBeeOz [#4] 9 Mar 2006
I have a plain IS400 not the volume, so I do not know.
Weird bug. Have you tried saving the file then reloading it?
The other thing that might get you out of it is to send a job with a different plate size and just a period, then reload the job and send it. The different plate size guarantees a home and hopefully a reset.
Do the jobs contain different text or are they just copies? To do a copy you just need to press start on the pendant again without resending the job.
It sounds like changing the diameter .001" forces it to do a reset. Ahhh, the joys of a bug.
Is it build 008? That is the latest and most stable version, from what I know.
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From: GBengraver [#8]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#7] 10 Mar 2006
We do alot of plates for cup bases that we add names and years to as they come up.
With my Vangard 3400 it was simple to set up colums leaving spaces for future years, save the layout and recall job as needed.
What you are explaining seems to not meet those needs, but your way looks like it would work fine for one and done column jobs.
Thank you for the tip.
Greg
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From: GBengraver [#10]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#9] 10 Mar 2006
Are you talking about doing this in the GS98 / Gs5 software or in Corel and then bring into the GS program?
I'm alittle confused.
Thanks,
Greg
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From: GBengraver [#12]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#11] 10 Mar 2006
I'm not sure if G5 has that feature or not as I have never tried it in G5.
I will though as the column feature in G5 is turning my hair grey and I'm getting tired of hearing my main engraver whinning about it. :'-(
Thanks again for the tip,
Greg
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#13]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#11] 10 Mar 2006
The only problem/feature with text in a box, is that changing the box does a global rescale of the text in the box. It will change the height and condensation of the text. The height sometimes is a good thing, the overall condensation is not. Just wish that the global rescale was a select/unselect feature.
Gravostyle 98.
From: GBengraver [#14]
10 Mar 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#11] 10 Mar 2006
Bruce,
Just tried to do what you discribed that you do in gs98 and I cannot do it in g5.
I tried to pull a box with the text tool, which is what I do in Corel to do columns, but you cannot do it in GS5.
Darn.
Greg
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From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#15]
10 Mar 2006
To: GBengraver [#14] 10 Mar 2006
In GS98 you type in the line of text, then go to, (I think). the lower right dot on the text utilities pinwheel, and select 'Text in a box'. That puts you in the manual mode and sets up the free floating box for the text.
How, or if, GS 5 does that is beyond me.
From: GBengraver [#16]
10 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#15] 10 Mar 2006
Thanks Harvey I'll try that.
Greg
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From: geebeau [#18]
10 Mar 2006
To: ALL
I have the IS400 with Gravo '98. At times, and for no particular reason, the computer shuts down. It never seems to happen while engraving a job, tho.
I had the power supply in the computer replaced, but it did it once after that.
By process of elimination, I have kept the computer running without loading any program, then with G98 running and it has not crashed.
For some particular reason, I seem to generate a lot of sparks... static electricity :)
I wonder if that could have anything to do with it.
Any of you have the same problem?
Thanx,
Steve
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From: JayBeeOz [#19]
11 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6] 11 Mar 2006
Harvey
It is build 8 and it doesnt happen when repeating copies from the Pendant.
It only happens when you send a job, then change something in the job, whether that is part of the copy or a setting i.e. amount of Z lift, orientation etc, and resend. The only way around it is to change the diameter or close the job and reopen it... Its not a big deal, I know its there and just work around it if I have to.
John
From: JayBeeOz [#20]
11 Mar 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#5] 11 Mar 2006
David
I'm not 100% convinced that it is software related. I think it has something to do with the Job Buffer of the main board. The fact that you don't have the problem helps to re-enforce that. Or It could be some background software interfering with the download. I had an IS300 that would occasionally go haywire, It would engrave normally then all of a sudden it would go off, mirroring text and engraving lines all over the place like it was possesed! I change the antivirus software that I was using, and it never did it again after that... As I said to Harvey, I know that the bug is there and i just work around it if needed. Even with its odd quirks I still prefer 98 over G5.
John
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#21]
11 Mar 2006
To: ALL
Comments on a few posts.
Static charges can do very funny things, from locking up a keyboard to locking up a computer to shutting it down. A few solutions are, getting an anti glare screen to go in front of the monitor, attaching its wire to the computer frame and touching that first. Attaching a wire to a piece of plastic and the frame of the computer and touching that first helps also. There is only one type of plastic that is totally non-conductive, forgot what it is called, but the others have a slight bit of conductivity, enough to discharge a static charge without feeling it. They make anti-static mats and wrist rests also. As long as it comes with a wire to attach to the computers frame, it is an anti-static unit. On the NH Orbiter a static charge touching the mechanism or keyboard will lock it up virtually every time.
Weird things can be caused by anti-virus software. My engraving computers are never on line so no anti-virus software is active. (The computers that create files that are transferred to those machines are protected.) I have never had that problem yet.
I have had a few jobs that went to very wrong places, including to the end of the limits of the table and locked up the controller. Reboot, send the job through again, same thing. Would have to re-layout the job from scratch and it was fine.
Ever have a job that when you highlight the text and replace it, you have very little intercharactor spacing no matter what you do? Delete the text and hit backspace 4 or 5 times and it fixes the problem. I believe it is that some letters were pull kerned and that did not disappear and became the default. Backspacing the nothing at the beginning of the line solves it.
From: JD (JIMDOW) [#22]
25 May 2006
To: GBengraver [#3] 31 Jul 2006
OK, I think I have a good allturnitive to the columns feature. Try this, it works in both G98 and G5:
- Go to manual mode and select left justification for text.
- Click out on your layout (towards the left side of the plate) to start a baseline. You will notice it runs all the way to the other side of the plate.
- Go to the baseline length box and enter the disired width of the column such as 2".
- Click on the text icon and then start typing in the column. Hit enter to create the next line. The base line should stay the same as you make the first column.
- To make the other columns, there are two ways to do this:
1. Click on the slection tool and then click on the column. It should turn all red.
2. Hold the control and shift key and click on the column and drag it off to the right until you have it placed where you want it and let up on the button. Holding the control & shift keys should allow you to drag the column on axis and also copy it.
The second way is for those who have Graphic level in G98 or G5 Discovery:
1. Click on the slection tool and click on the column so it turns red.
2. Click on duplication tools and select the multi copy function. In there, you can tell it how many columns you want and the spacing.
-Once the columns are made, click on the next column so only that one is red.
- Click on the text tool and just start typing. Hit enter to go to the next line. This allows you to easily create columns of different lengths.
Hope this helps
JD in Minnesota :-)
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