Full Version: File Converter for .lgo files

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#13]
 8 Nov 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#10] 8 Nov 2006

Just because the file extension is the same does not mean it is the same format. NH is proprietary to the New Hermes machines. The Meistergram is proprietary to the MS machines. They are very different.

From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#14]
 8 Nov 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#13] 8 Nov 2006

Harvey,

Yes but H-Square built the systems for both Meistergram and New hermes at one time. And I believe that the LGO format came from that transition. I know for a fact that the original software for the H-Square, Meistergram, and the new Hermes 1219, 810, and a couple of other new hermes systems was written by the same guy.

New hermes could have changed this format slightly when they went to france to build there systems, but I can create an lgo file that will work on any of the above systems.


From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#15]
 8 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#11] 8 Nov 2006

Puck,

You have to have the Xybercad Logo Tools if you have pro logo or just the xybercad this option is not available.

At any rate you should look for your DC2 files this is the file that is created using the Design Cad. With these files you can do what you are wanting to do.

The LGO files are only created to work within the engraving program.


From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#16]
 8 Nov 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#15] 8 Nov 2006

Laserman,

Just got done looking and I only have 4 numbers so guess that way is a no go also.

Not sure where to find the DC2 files.

Thanks,
Puck


From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#17]
 8 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#16] 9 Nov 2006

Puck,

What program are you using to create the logo?

Are you using a digitizer?

You have to have some program to create the file before you process it through Xybercad to create the LGO files usually it is Design Cad.


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#18]
 8 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#12] 9 Nov 2006

I finally found my source code. It was written in 1991 through 1995.

The old format was .LOG, the new format was .LGO. I could only do the conversions from/to .LOG. there was not enough call to decrypt the new format, sorry.


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#19]
 8 Nov 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#14] 8 Nov 2006

It could very well be that the people that I talked to either did not know or were propagating a cover story.

My software for the New Hermes can convert to DC2, not PLT. (Finally found that on a backup disk also.)

It was the Dahlgren version that could do everything.

In Gravostlye 98 you can bring in a logo from the LGO format and export it as a PLT.


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#20]
 8 Nov 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#15] 8 Nov 2006

I'll send you an email through the forum so you have an email address for me.

Send me a logo and I will see if I can convert it for you. If it works, I will be able to easily do a ton of them for you fairly simply.


From: bruce (BBSD) [#21]
 8 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#11] 9 Nov 2006

I have casmate pro New Hermes vers which can import and export lgo, eps, plt, dxf, etc.

You can send a logo to me and I,ll see if it converts.

Send to my email under my profile, but add sales@ to it

Bruce

EDITED: 8 Nov 2006 by BBSD


From: Jim (PUZZLEHEAD) [#22]
 8 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#1] 9 Nov 2006

Puck,

If Bruce's Casmate software is not able to do the job for you, I have a copy XyberCad that will convert .lgo files to DesignCad .DC2 files. If you want to email a test file, I will see if I can convert your file to .DC2 and then I will resave that for you as a .ai file. I am not sure though if XyberCad will only convert the files coded for my machine back to DC2 or if I could also convert yours. How many do you have that need to be converted. I am not sure if my brain works well enough to remember how to write a DOS program that could automate the translation process for doing lots of files, but I can give it a shot.

Jim
jimjarecki at America online .com


From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#23]
 9 Nov 2006
To: Jim (PUZZLEHEAD) [#22] 9 Nov 2006

Jim,

You can only convert the files back wards that you created. For instance if I did a logo for you and you wanted to convert it into a DC2 file your Xybercad will not convert it back only the Xybercad that converted it will be able to do that.

Now what can be done is to re-code the LGO file with the duplicate logo for another user you then just enter there software code into it.

When these guys did this to this software I new it would be a big headache sooner or later.

I think that Puck has the Design Cad because he is creating logos and I am not aware of any other method besides using Corel that he can use. If he is using Corel then he can just export the files as he needs but in order to first create a logo you have to be using some software because the Xybercad is just a conversion program not a drawing program.


From: Jim (PUZZLEHEAD) [#24]
 9 Nov 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#23] 9 Nov 2006

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the info on XyberCad. I never had a logo coded for another system to experiment with, so I didn't know if that would work or not. I have created .lgo logos with XyberCad from AutoCad files, but I think I probably paid extra to get that feature in my XyberCad.

A year or two ago you mentioned that you had a customer who had 8 1912 engravers for sale. Do you know if any of them are still available?

Thanks,
Jim


From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#25]
 9 Nov 2006
To: Jim (PUZZLEHEAD) [#24] 9 Nov 2006

Hi Jim,

Yes there are I have five of them here at my office. The price is $2,500.00 each.

Let me know if you are interested in one and I will get it down and re build it, and make it just like New.


From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#26]
 9 Nov 2006
To: bruce (BBSD) [#21] 9 Nov 2006

Bruce,

I checked your profile but it did not show a email address to send this file to. I can PM you if thats OK.

Thanks,
Puck


From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#27]
 9 Nov 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#23] 9 Nov 2006

Laserman,

I actually do use Corel draw to do 90% of my logos. I use to use Freehand also but never updated it.

I also use signmate express (vinyl graphic cutter program) to do some of my logos but corel draw is my favorite and theres just about nothing I can't figure out how to do with it. Signmate will put any finishing touches I need that corel draw does not.

I used corel draw to do my logos/graphics first, saved them to .plt and then use Xybercad to turn them in to .lgo files for the meistergram. If I had not lost my hard drive on the computer I do the logos/graphics on I would be able to re-do them to my other engraver but looks like I did not get them all saved. I spent a few hours today while doing other things looking through every shelf I have and did come up with some of my logos/graphics on a CD from about 4 years ago so now I'm just down to a few years.

I'm going to do just the ones that I need when I need them so that should work out. Wouldn't be as bad if I could at least scan them and go from there but most will have to be re-drawn by hand in corel draw again.

Anyway to print out the graphic from Xybercad? I can bring it up on the screen to look at in xybercad but can't see anyway to print it out or capture it to paste in corel draw.

Thanks,
Puck


From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#28]
 9 Nov 2006
To: ALL

Thanks all for the help in trying to figure this out but looks like I'm going to have to go ahead and re-draw the graphics out free hand in corel draw and go from there.

I did find some of the logos/graphics on a CD today so that will make it a lot easier and a lot less to re-do.

Thanks,
Puck


From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#29]
 9 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#28] 9 Nov 2006

Puck,

You can not print the files from Xybercad. I do have a laser printer program that allowed you to print your layouts from d14 to a laser printer. Maybe what you can do is to create the layout with just the logo and then send it to the laser printer then use that as your art work to scan or trace.

EDITED: 9 Nov 2006 by MIKEMAC


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#30]
 9 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#27] 9 Nov 2006

If you had a hard drive failure but it still turns, you may be able to recover almost all the files with 'Get Data Back'. It is a good program and can do a lot.

From: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#31]
 9 Nov 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#27] 9 Nov 2006

Puck,

You've had some great offers from our "community," but so far I think I have the easiest solution.

I can use LogoBahn to convert the D1.4 LGO files into .PLT files. Its batch function will convert all .LGOs in a folder. It would take one minute to start the batch. I must have, however, your Meistergram customer number which LogoBahn uses to decrypt the protection algorithm.

If you'll get those files to me before a week end, I'll get them back to you before sunrise Monday morning. (no/charge for my one minute)

Mike Mac. While Aubrey is no longer marketing the program, but after all the help you gave him years ago, I'll bet you could get him to make an exception. It really is fantastic at converting most of the proprietary engraving formats back and forth: PLT, DC2, FT9, F, LOG, LGO (both Hermes and D1.4). It's only people like us that have a need for a program like this(?).

Sorry, the Xenetech software can import/convert the older format (LOG) but not the encrypted LGOs.

From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#32]
 9 Nov 2006
To: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#31] 10 Nov 2006

Pedaler,

I'm not really to knowledgable about the software I use, QEG so I guess what I need to know is it the same as the D1.4 you are talking about?

When I received my engraver it came with the D1.4 software but it would not work so I called meistergram and they told me that they had sent the wrong software and I should have received QEG so they sent me that. They came and installed it at that time. I later received another copy of the D1.4 but never tried to install it since I already had QEG installed, why they sent another copy of D1.4 was a mistake on their part they said.

Thanks,
Puck


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