Full Version: Info on OEM Laser Sub.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8]
 17 Nov 2005
To: ALL

I am just starting a run of Xmas Ornaments using the OEM toner system. A full color cute angel of a girl, cut out along the edges and room for engraving at the bottom. Now to see if they sell.

Does anyone have a drawing, not photo, of a cherubic boy that I can use as a boy angel? That would finish it up.


From: JHayes55 [#9]
 17 Nov 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8] 17 Nov 2005

Harvey
What substrate are you doing this on?


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#10]
 17 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#9] 18 Nov 2005

1/8" clear acrylic.

Cannot do that with dye-sub!!!


From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#11]
 19 Nov 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2] 19 Nov 2005

Hi Harvey ... I haven't ever heard of utilzing acryrilic with any type of sublimation. Is it unique to laser sublimation? What dwell times/temps are you using? I really like the ideas you have for some of the effects you described and would love trying them as well.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12]
 19 Nov 2005
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#11] 19 Nov 2005

Sublimation cannot do acrylic, too high a temperature needed.

Going from memory I use 280*F and 40 seconds using a 1/16" green silicon pad. The 1/4" brick red pad needs about 90-120 seconds. Medium to light pressure.

Be sure that the heat press is accurate, even 15* too high will have an effect on the surface of the acrylic, 30* will melt the surface enough to leave severe impressions of the texture of the pad.

You can probably do it at a far lower temperature with a longer time, just enough to get the surface of the acrylic to about 160*, the average melting and bonding temp of the laser toner.


From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#13]
 19 Nov 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12] 19 Nov 2005

Thanks Harvey (again) ... just this thread started my creative juices flowing...

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14]
 20 Nov 2005
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#13] 20 Nov 2005

John,

I have someone sending me a sample of an acrylic piece that had an image heat pressed on it using OEM toners and a special release paper. The company has developed their own paper. They are not reselling something that is already on the market.

I will give you my impression and have the manufacturer share more details here on the forum.


From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15]
 20 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#1] 21 Nov 2005

Thanks Joe! Thanks a lot!!!!

Now I must go do battle with my wife over sublimation equipment again. You have me thinking, and you know how dangerous THAT can be. Sheesh....the products, the market, the toy......er I mean TOOLS!!!!!

Thanks a bunch........ :D 


From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#16]
 20 Nov 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14] 20 Nov 2005

David .... sounds interesting ...I will be interested in what you find out.

From: JHayes55 [#17]
 21 Nov 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14] 21 Nov 2005

David
I have someone who is sending me the same thing - they too developed there own paper. I bet were talking about the same person. We should pm or email and compare notes. One thing for sure I am liking what and see and hear about this process.


From: JHayes55 [#18]
 21 Nov 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15] 21 Nov 2005

This proccess fits well with our current make up and opens some options I like. Not much battle with my wife on this. We spent part of Saturday checking out the features and cost of the printers. May have one before Thanksgiving.

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#19]
 21 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#18] 21 Nov 2005

Joe,
Let me know what you finally decide upon as far as equipment.


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