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From: JHayes55 [#36]
 16 Feb 2006
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#34] 16 Feb 2006

Brian - I had no ideas what your were talking about - and I am not sure I do yet! >.<  But if it made your day - then it was a good thing.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#37]
 16 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#36] 16 Feb 2006

Worming is a function of the forum software. It is a sneaky and nasty feature. You can allow someone to read and post, but the posts only show up for the moderators and no one else.

I know of only one person wormed. He/She has never posted since then, for some reason.


From: JHayes55 [#38]
 16 Feb 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#37] 16 Feb 2006

I can bet who it was.

From: Mick [#39]
 16 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#38] 17 Feb 2006

So can I, but I only got about 1/8 screwed by him/her. I didn't lose anything like others did.

From: JHayes55 [#40]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Mick [#39] 17 Feb 2006

Mick - I hate to hear that Justin got you too. One of the salesmen who calls on me also travels into Wisconsin. Last time I thought to ask him he said Justin was still in Beaver Dam. He also said that things seemed to be going a bit down hill at Justin's-- -- imagine that!

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#41]
 17 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#40] 17 Feb 2006

Joe,

To mention Justin Fischer, of Beaver Dam Trophy, in Beaver Dam, Michigan, by name, is just plain wrong; but I'm happy you beat me to it. (devil) 

During our failed attempt to receive payment, for a (rush) job I did for Justin, my wife called the Beaver Dam Chamber of Commerce, to file a complaint and was told she wasn't the first.

In fact, Justin has the distinction of being the first business in town, in line to have his application for renewal refused.

I would hope the ARA would exhibit the same fortitude, in refusing his membership, should he try to renew.

There's no gray area, or "he said, she said" in this instance.

His list of victims is long and verifiable.

From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#42]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Mick [#39] 17 Feb 2006

Hey, I took a trip for you on that run ;) I guess I was the insurance clause.

 

Brian G.


From: JHayes55 [#43]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#41] 17 Feb 2006

I call'm like I see'm ;-) 

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#44]
 17 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#43] 17 Feb 2006

Joe,

In my case, I should have seen him coming. I just thought (mistakenly) that he had rehabilitated himself.

He was convincing in his promise to pay me. :-$ 

EDITED: 17 Feb 2006 by DGL


From: JHayes55 [#45]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#44] 17 Feb 2006

Most TRUE crooks are convincing

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#46]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#41] 17 Feb 2006

David,

I went to the Beaver Dam Chamber website and it appears the renewal refusal is still in full force. There was no sign of BDTA.

Interestingly, I called and left a message for Justin last week. He never returned my call. It must be getting lonely in Beaver Dam Country.


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#47]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#46] 17 Feb 2006

David,

My wife also called the local competition. The person on the phone said there isn't much activity at Justin's location.

Justin's probably the best thing that's ever happened for their business.

From: JHayes55 [#48]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#47] 17 Feb 2006

Rumor has it that he may crash the Beach Party. :P 

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#49]
 17 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#48] 18 Feb 2006

Get the payment up front. Darn, I wish I had implemented that policy a year ago.

EDITED: 17 Feb 2006 by DATAKES


From: UncleSteve [#50]
 17 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#48] 18 Feb 2006

Do you really think his IQ could be as low as his business morals? >.< 


From: gt350ed [#51]
 17 Feb 2006
To: UncleSteve [#50] 18 Feb 2006

I'm so glad you guys identified him as "Justin". I was sitting here copying the mail thinking it was ME you were talking about. B-)  (devil) 

From: Franklin (FW_HAYNES) [#52]
 17 Feb 2006
To: ALL

You guys are harsh. I am guessing he deserves it though. Just remind me never to get on EE's black ball list. ;-) 

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#53]
 17 Feb 2006
To: Franklin (FW_HAYNES) [#52] 18 Feb 2006

Franklin,

It's easy to stay off that list. Just be an ethical businessperson.

Easier for some, than others, but it's not that hard a task.

Having a conscience is the first step.

EDITED: 17 Feb 2006 by DGL


From: JHayes55 [#54]
 18 Feb 2006
To: UncleSteve [#50] 18 Feb 2006

Steve
Sadly good crooks are usually very High IQ - but I am not sure Justin is smart just sneaky. And he must be good at sneaky because look at the individuals who were taken in (some of them more than once). :-$ 

Justin is a wolf in sheep's clothing and he used the wool to pull it over peoples eyes. Everyone who has been in business has been shorn a time or two.


From: UncleSteve [#55]
 18 Feb 2006
To: JHayes55 [#54] 18 Feb 2006

"Shear me once, shame on you. Shear me twice, shame on me!" or something to that effect....

As you say, we all get hit once in a while but most of us don't get hit by the same person/company twice. :S 


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