Full Version: What Is Rub-N-Buff?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
12 Jun 2004
To: gt350ed [#4] 12 Jun 2004
Ed,
Sounds as if a "filler stick" was used. They're kind of like a crayon with a loose waxy consistency.
They can be found from several engraving suppliers, though, I like the consistency of the New Hermes (Gravograph) brand.
The others are a bit too hard and don't flow into the engraved image as well.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: gt350ed [#6]
12 Jun 2004
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 12 Jun 2004
David: Thanks for your helpful response. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I have the time to order some in. I hate wasting this weekend and the method I use to engrave depends on what I will use as a "fill" (I think). It seems as though the "stuff" used by the other company could be applied without mask which, essentially eliminates the need for a mask altogether. That would be my preference IF I can find a filler other than spray paint and IF I can get it this weekend. My problem, not yours.
I'm on my way to Michaels and Wal-Mart. Stay tuned.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7]
12 Jun 2004
To: gt350ed [#6] 12 Jun 2004
Ed,
If the surface of your award can hold up to a solvent, you can use an enamel. I rarely use the filler sticks. I prefer enamel.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: gt350ed [#8]
12 Jun 2004
To: gt350ed [#6] 12 Jun 2004
I can't believe I mispelled "Rub"-N-Buff and posted my thread as "Run-N-Buff". Maybe it's Run-IN-the-Buff. Oh, sorry, that's another forum.
In any event, I went to Michael's craft store and they DO have Rub-N-Buff......in two shades of gold, silver, ruby and patina. Although this will not meet my immediate need, I DID pick up some "grecian" gold.
In the meantime, I'm not sure if I'm in trouble or not. I'm still using Krylon sprays. However, although the paint is good quality, it is not providing the "fill" that I'm after.
Now, where's that black Kiwi shoe polish.......???
From: Bieb (HABIEB) [#9]
12 Jun 2004
To: gt350ed [#8] 12 Jun 2004
You may be able to find the Rub-N-Buff in a higher end art store. Here in Atlanta Michael's only carries the gold and silver, but at Dick Blick an art supply store they have all the colors. You may want to call your local Art store and check before you drive all over town.
Harold
From: gt350ed [#10]
12 Jun 2004
To: Bieb (HABIEB) [#9] 30 Jun 2004
Harold: Thank you for the advice regarding more "flavors". I'll check with some art stores or supply companies in my area. It's tough being a "newbie". But with this forum and peers such as yourself to assist, maybe I'll survive.
Thanks, again.
From: aallen [#11]
13 Jun 2004
To: ALL
I have used rubb n buff some, I like it for some things. I know this will not help you for this project, but I have found a place on line that carries all the colors. I have ordered from them for this.
Good luck!
http://www.bigceramicstore.com/Supplies/NonFiredCoatings/RubnBuff.htm
From: Michael [#12]
5 Jul 2004
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2] 5 Jul 2004
Hi, Harvey,
Here's a suggestion for keeping that material a tad longer. Works extremely well with oil and acrylic paints and other goodies that come in tubes : squeeze out just a bit more than you need and cap the tube with that extra protruding. That will keep oxygen, the usual cause of stuff like that drying out, out of the tube. May not be the magic bullet but should noticably extend the life of the material.
Keep smilin,
Michael
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#13]
5 Jul 2004
To: Michael [#12] 6 Jul 2004
Thanks for that suggestion.
While reading your reply a thought struck me. If kept refrigerated, it should last longer. I wonder if it can take freezing?
From: Zonas [#14]
21 Jul 2004
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#13] 22 Jul 2004
Harvey, I have also found that using electrical wire nuts instead of the plastic cap works better. Seems the wire threads inside the nut give a better seal than the plastic threads on cap. I've kept tubes up to a year this way.
Zona
Zona's Engraved Creations
From: Zonas [#15]
21 Jul 2004
To: gt350ed [#1] 21 Jul 2004
Ed, since I just registered tonight I know this is to late for your problem you posted, but for future reference. I have used acrylic enamel indoor/outdoor gloss by Plaid. 2 oz. cost apx. $1.00 can get at Walmarts, or craft stores. I've used it for filling engraved plastic and glass. I specially like it when I need to 'custom' match, since this paint is pourable you can mix colors to make your own - and save the left over for future reorders.
Zona
Zona's Engraved Creations
Topeka, KS
From: gt350ed [#16]
21 Jul 2004
To: Zonas [#15] 22 Jul 2004
From: aallen [#17]
22 Jul 2004
To: Zonas [#15] 22 Jul 2004
Zona,
Welcome, it is nice to see someone from my area. Topeka is only about 30 miles from me.
This is a good forum, I am sure you will enjoy it, I know I do.
From: Zonas [#18]
22 Jul 2004
To: aallen [#17] 22 Jul 2004
which direction........from Topeka?
Zona
From: aallen [#19]
22 Jul 2004
To: Zonas [#18] 22 Jul 2004
Zona,
I am in Holton, just north of Topeka.
From: Zonas [#20]
22 Jul 2004
To: aallen [#19] 22 Jul 2004
With the name Allen didn't know if it was Lawrence - popular name over there. Know lots of people in Holton. We will have to meet each other some time. I'm north of Topeka just off Hwy. 75
Zona
From: aallen [#21]
22 Jul 2004
To: Zonas [#20] 23 Jul 2004
Yes, it is a popular name, I married into it. I too am just off Hwy 75. So, yes, we should meet sometime. Do you have a shop in town or at home? Sounds like you different stuff then I do by the glass top thing mentioned.
Nice to meet you. email me sometime, and we can get together I am obviously aallen@holtonks.net
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