Full Version: Geo. Knight DK20S - Watch Your Fingers

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#116]
 16 Mar 2006
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#113] 16 Mar 2006

Brian,

This comes down to more than one question.

Granted, who am I to contradict the words of Aaron Knight? Yes, according to his description of proper operating procedure, I used the machine improperly.

There you have it. A confession before the world.

Now, I hope we can move past that minor point, (which you seem unwilling to do), and focus on the current fact that people operating the machine "properly" continue to bang their fingers into the press housing, while moving the handlebar to a full-open position, "with both hands" on the foam grips.

The DK20S stands alone, as the only swing-away press, where, when a person's hands are placed anywhere along the handlebar, (regardless of right, left or middle sections) that type of incident is remotely possible.

The only press!

The pictures you've seen of the DK20S' handlebar, in promotional materials, have been "posed" in a horizontal position, when in fact, none of the presses I've seen (and I've seen a lot of them) stop in that position.

If they did, the press would be in a class with the others, who pose virtually no risk of hand injury. You would be able to use the DK20S properly or improperly, without ill-effect whatsoever.

There would be no issue at all. None!

I have virtually no idea if Aaron Knight knows that I'm a forum host or not. I've never mentioned that fact to him, therefore, I couldn't have threatened to use my position as forum host, as leverage in any way.

Why should that matter?

I realize you feel you can't be missing anything, but by strictly having pictures to rely on, for your "facts", leaves you woefully short of the tangible evidence necessary to proffer an educated opinion on the matter.

EDITED: 18 Mar 2006 by DGL


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#117]
 17 Mar 2006
To: ALL

= UPDATE =

There's nobody more weary of this topic than myself, but I have some good news to report.

Today, I visited Coast Graphic Supply, in Ventura, CA to look at a new (fresh out of the box) DK20S.

To my surprise and delight, the "new build" has been reworked to where the handlebar of the press, (in a full-open position), stands at a completey horizontal position, leaving ample clearance between itself and the upper housing of the heat press.

At this point, there is no way to impact a person's fingers, regardless of where they place their hands across the handlebar.

I commend Aaron Knight for being a man of his word, in taking this issue seriously and implementing the design changes necessary, not only to reduce his company's exposure to personal injury litigation, but in providing a much safer product to the buying public.

EDITED: 17 Mar 2006 by DGL


From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#118]
 19 Mar 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#101] 19 Mar 2006

quote:
Have you noticed that on cars manufactured for at least the past twenty years, the brake pedal has been redesigned. Do you know why?



Too keep it farther from the accelerator pedal to prevent ones foot from slipping?


Just a guess

From: GBengraver [#119]
 17 Jun 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#111] 17 Jun 2006

I think you should add:

4. How many people who own a DK20S ever pinched thier finger? (devil) 

I own one and never came close. I have other issues with the press but that is not one of them.

Greg


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#120]
 17 Jun 2006
To: GBengraver [#119] 17 Jun 2006

Greg,

A few, is too many.

Now that Geo. Knight has changed the design of the press, the answer will be the correct one:

Zero.

From: logojohn [#121]
 17 Jun 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#120] 17 Jun 2006

With the laser toner transfer, I see some possibilities with some very thick items. (4-6 inches)

Would the DC16 be more flexible? It has several attachments you can add later like mugs, inside plates, caps, etc. The list price is actually less than the DK20.

http://www.heatpress.net/pdf/dc.pdf

We have a small 9x12 hobby which does do a good job on a lot of things but I see the need to upgrade in size down the road. The way things happen around here it could be next year or next week depending on what comes up.

If you order a DK20 now from a dealer, is there any way to be sure you are getting the new model?

'

EDITED: 17 Jun 2006 by LOGOJOHN


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#122]
 17 Jun 2006
To: logojohn [#121] 20 Jun 2006

quote:
If you order a DK20 now from a dealer, is there any way to be sure you are getting the new model?


John,

That's a good question, since some of the (new) older presses may still be in circulation.

If it's one of the "new build", the handle, in full open position, will be parallel to the bed of the press.

Older builds were random. Some had sufficient space between the handle and housing and some had little to none.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#123]
 17 Jun 2006
To: logojohn [#121] 20 Jun 2006

Look into the new Insta press for that. A little more expensive but has a crank at the top that adjusts the space for thick items. Insta makes good presses.

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