Full Version: Web hosting good price??

From: joyce (JLADY) [#1]
 17 Nov 2005
To: ALL

We are paying $60.00 a month for web hosting with our domain name and email domains. Is that a good price? If not does anyone have any others they can recommend?

Actually we have been paying for it but not using it, it was acquired with previous owners and we are just now planning on updating and using it.

Joyce Mayer
Abbott Trophies

EDITED: 25 Nov 2005 by DATAKES


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2]
 17 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 17 Nov 2005

Joyce,

I'm not ultimately knowledgable about these things, but it sounds pretty steep to me.

This site is hosted for about $120 per year, through our administrator John Fish.

From: Upacreek [#3]
 17 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 17 Nov 2005

It all depends upon what is included in that $60 month. If it includes site maintenance and so forth, it's a great price. If they are just hosting your domain and doing nothing else, the price is extremely high.

You can get a host server for as cheap as $5 a month (if not cheaper), but you get what you pay for. Those places usually share that server out with as many clients as possible and sometimes "overbook" space. (i.e. they have a 60 GB hard drive and sold 10 people 10GB each with the intentions not everyone will fill all their space up.)

While looking for a host server, find out what their uptime is. If they have a link on their site pointing to an outside monitoring system such as siteuptime.com or alertra.com, even better. It takes guts to show your server uptime - monitored by an outside source - and it shows that company has taken the extra step to ensure their servers are running smoothly.

If you do your own site building, you can easily get a decent host server for around $10 a month with plenty of space for a shopping cart or other services.

Michel


From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#4]
 17 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 17 Nov 2005

Joyce,

If you are only receiving domain registration, hosting service and e-mail, that seems very steep, unless they are providing you some major overkill on server space. I am comfortable in saying that you can likely get the same or better service out of John Fish for a fraction of that price, and I don't mean 99/100ths. He is familiar with our industry needs and can do you a great service. He is a GOOD man! You can contact him at johncfish at johncfish dot com.

I use John for both of my websites and I know there are others here doing the same. They may chime in also.

EDITED: 17 Nov 2005 by DATAKES


From: joyce (JLADY) [#5]
 17 Nov 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#4] 17 Nov 2005

Another obstacle for me is going to be the design of the site, the host for 60.00 a month has a online web site builder, the host by the way is

ivenue.com

Here is the website that was built before we came along, we have done nothing to it and don't tell our customers about it. Although we have been paying the 60.00 per month for the last 1 1/2 years!!

www.abbottrophies.com

We want to completely redesign the site, nothing fancy, no complicated shopping carts but we do want it to look professional and have links to some vendors like tropar so people can browse products online and call us with what they want or for prices on specific items.

I don't want to take the time to design it. We don't even have a logo...not sure if we want one.

I think I will contact john fish.

Joyce


From: Rolf (RJB2108) [#6]
 18 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#5] 18 Nov 2005

I think that a good idea.
John is getting me all set up with a website. He really seems to know his stuff and he's really nice to work with. (actually he is doing all the work)
Rolf


From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7]
 18 Nov 2005
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#6] 18 Nov 2005

John does know his stuff. He has 36 years of programming experience. His knowledge has grow with technology. I have read some of the technical articles he has written on some of the techy websites. It is pretty impressive.

EDITED: 18 Nov 2005 by DATAKES


From: Da Big Fish (JOHNFISH) [#8]
 20 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 20 Nov 2005

"Shameless Self-Promotion"

Joyce,

I am a server administrator, I lease my own servers in a server farm, this provides full 24/7 hardware support on a very reliable and huge "pipe" (bottom line: maximum uptime, no bandwidth restrictions). The newest one I designed the server software using Debian Linux and Plesk for the customer interface. Very secure.

I spent 6 months rewriting my shopping cart software, with a lot of help from customer ideas (mostly David Takes) for the presentation and admin areas of the cart. (Thanks again David).

I work with the customer for a design, no templates because everyone's ideas are different. I base my work on $50/hr, the typical design/redesign with shopping cart runs $500 - $600 before product entry (which the customer can do themselves). Monthly changes/maintenance is also at $50/hr, if needed.

I'm at the point that I insist on doing the work on my own servers, other hosting doesn't have the software (or updates) I require for customer security, and always ends up costing more of my time, so in the long run I either end up costing the customer more than I should, or I end up doing too much work for free. I prefer transfering the customer to my servers, but can also forward from their present site to my server.

Hosting is $120/yr (paid yearly) and on very rare occasions can cost more (high bandwidth and many GB useage like streaming audio/video). I don't "over pack" my servers, I just add another server.

If I may be of assistance, feel free to contact me.

johncfish at johncfish.com


From: aallen [#9]
 20 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 20 Nov 2005

Joyce,

I too use John. He is great to work with. My site is still in progress, but almost completed. He has been very helpful and easy to ask those "dumb" questions I usually have ! :P 

Good luck, it is a lot of owrk, but I am hoping it will be worth it in the end.


From: Paul (JACKPETTY) [#10]
 20 Nov 2005
To: ALL

I switched last year to godaddy.com and am not sorry. I think I paid $200 for 3 years. Twice this past year they've updated my space without me asking or charging more.
Customer support is also very good. While forced away for the hurricane, I called them from out of town and had them switch my email service, which we host ourselves, over to web email so I can keep in contact. They did it for free, due to the circumstances and set it back for free weeks later when I got back. Emails are answered in less than 8 hours.


From: UncleSteve [#11]
 20 Nov 2005
To: Da Big Fish (JOHNFISH) [#8] 20 Nov 2005

John, The sites look good but you have to fix the SSL logo on Chuck's site, American Pacific...

There is NO SSL lock on the Exporer bar and if you (when I) click on the SSL logo it takes the viewer to another site... Country Images (IIRC)...

EDITED: 20 Nov 2005 by UNCLESTEVE


From: Da Big Fish (JOHNFISH) [#12]
 20 Nov 2005
To: UncleSteve [#11] 20 Nov 2005

Fixed, thanks for the heads up.

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#13]
 22 Nov 2005
To: joyce (JLADY) [#1] 22 Nov 2005

Joyce,
I too must jump on the John C. Fish bandwagon. He did my site, and tolerated my myriad changes........it was fun to boot.......( personally I think the man has had a usb port surgically implanted somewhere ) B-) 

I found him to be reasonable and helpful and knowledgable...... just a plain all round good fish.


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