Full Version: Dead or Alive, Diamonds can be your Best Friend (Sticky)

From: Andrew [#8]
 25 Jan 2007

I use faceted diamonds a lot to mark stainless steel. I have been looking around for someone to relap these as they do dull quite quickly because of the material.

I have found one company who can do this for me. The price quoted is about 40% of the cost of a new diamond.

In your experience will relapping a diamond be just as good as a new one? Any ideas on how many times these can be relapped.

Thanks in advance for any advice


From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#9]
 26 Jan 2007
To: Andrew [#8] 26 Jan 2007

I think Bruce Diamond does relaps.

The only problem with relapping is if it is a big bit like .040. It may not have enough diamond to relap. Just tell them, in advance, to relap to the largest possible size, or maybe .030 if it gets too small.

I used to use Mitchell Tool, a resharpening service that also sold Bruce Diamond bits. He is out of business for a few years, unfortunately.

From: Andrew [#10]
 26 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#9] 26 Jan 2007

Thanks Harvey

I am in the UK and have so far only found one company who may be able to help. I will give them a go with one of my 'deads' to see. it will be a good saving over the course of a year if it works for me.

From: cadman (MGDESIGNS) [#11]
 26 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 26 Jan 2007

As a hand engraver, the primary thing to remember is what ever the finish of the graver will be directly translated into the material being engraved. This also applies to "scratch" machine engraving. Us hand engravers may spend hours shaping a graver to be just perfect, and it will cut gorgeous lines; and as soon as chip occurs we notice. The engraved lines change character, and the tool reacts differently. But we are connected directly to the cutter.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12]
 26 Jan 2007
To: cadman (MGDESIGNS) [#11] 26 Jan 2007

Judging by your profile, you're one of the younger hand engravers. :-)

Thank you for the input.

Is there a web site, or photos, where we can see examples of your work?

EDITED: 26 Jan 2007 by DGL

From: AL (SUBLIAL) [#13]
 27 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12] 27 Jan 2007

David, Being a hand engraver myself I went to his profile immediately for the same reason you did. I was one of the youngest in N.J. except for one fellow I taught and he ended up at the US Mint.
I am going on 69 years young.
AL La Costa

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14]
 27 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12] 27 Jan 2007


David Takes
Expressions Engraved

EDITED: 7 Aug 2010 by DATAKES

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15]
 27 Jan 2007
To: AL (SUBLIAL) [#13] 27 Jan 2007


Do you remember Richardson's. They were active in the awards industry and introduced the use of calligraphic tips, on computerized engraving systems, which imitated hand-engraved calligraphy on metal.

They also had a correspondence course in hand engraving.

I believe they were in Berkely Heights, NJ.

I think they were also involved in the embryonic stages of Xenetech.

From: AL (SUBLIAL) [#16]
 27 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15] 27 Jan 2007

Dave, Yes we lived one town apart and that is who had the laminator. we were competitors but they were mostly in the awards business and I was mostly in jewelry and silver awards.
I engraved for 22 years by hand and so did Doug.
Small world.
AL La costa

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#17]
 27 Jan 2007
To: AL (SUBLIAL) [#16] 27 Jan 2007


Where are they now? As active and as innovative as they were in the A&E industry, they disappeared from sight almost overnight.

Of course, overnight was at least a couple of decades ago.

From: AL (SUBLIAL) [#18]
 27 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#17] 27 Jan 2007

Dave, I haven,t seen them in 30 years. It wasn,t a happy ending for them. That is a long story.
AL La Costa

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#19]
 27 Jan 2007
To: AL (SUBLIAL) [#18] 29 Jan 2007


Sorry to hear that.

From: Fordy (CENTRAL) [#20]
 28 Jan 2007

John, I must agree with you, I run a bussiness in Bendigo Australia, & have found its gives me a better result spinning a blunt diamond cutter at about half the normal speed gives you a great result on, anadised aluminium, stainless steel, s/s mugs & drinking flasks, even sterling silver bracelets the engraving dosn't wear off & the engraving stands out, just dont make a mistake its harder to buff off! I've just registered on this sight, a mate of mine Baz told me about it! I'm heading off next week to the States & I'll be at the ARA from the 20th Feb.
Seeya there Glenn (Fordy)

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#21]
 28 Jan 2007
To: Fordy (CENTRAL) [#20] 29 Jan 2007


I've recently become a proponent of spinning the diamond gravers.

Haven't tried it on everything, but find it works wonders on coated items, like some coated writing pens. It also makes a better cut for oxidizing trophy brass.

I'm happy Baz told you about our forum. We're getting quite a few Aussies on board. Some are threatening to band together and come to next year's ARA Las Vegas show. :-)

If you're in the mood to meet and party with some of the people of this forum, while in Vegas, take a moment to check out this thread:


A lot of posts there. After reading the first post, you may want to fast forward to the 200+ post, to see where we stand.

Almost forgot - Welcome to Engraving Etc!

EDITED: 28 Jan 2007 by DGL

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