Full Version: Mug press opinions wanted

From: GBengraver [#11]
 5 Apr 2006
To: gt350ed [#8] 5 Apr 2006

Ed,
Have you ever uses mug wraps?

Cactus has a new one out that they claim is a much better way to go than with a press.

Seems to me the downside with them is that they take much longer to "bake" them than to press.

Up side is you can do multiple mugs at once, assuming that your oven can hold them. I'm in a store front so I don't have a full sized oven. I would need a toaster oven type oven.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Greg

EDITED: 5 Apr 2006 by GBENGRAVER

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From: gt350ed [#12]
 5 Apr 2006
To: GBengraver [#11] 6 Apr 2006

Greg, I have never used mug wraps. Just never had the occasion to. Those that DO use them tend to swear by them. Maybe others that do use them will see this post and respond.

My opinion is that they ARE beneficial for quantities. But, then, you will be limited by the number of wraps you have versus how many you need. And then there are the logistics of having 10 mugs in the oven, all done at the same time, and having to use a wrench (I think) to unbolt each wrap. It's probably easier than I'm imagining.

On the otherhand, you would be surprised at how many mugs you can crank out in an hour alternating between two mug presses.

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From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#13]
 6 Apr 2006
To: gt350ed [#12] Unread

One finished mug every two mins if you use a 4 min cycle with two presses. B-) 

Or one mug pro plus with a satelite...

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From: basehorawards [#14]
 28 Apr 2006
To: ALL

This discussion has sparked my interest. I have a Hix flat press and have been very happy with it so I went to their web site. They have on for $781. How does that compare to the others discussed here? They also have a Glazer
Do any of you use a glazer too? They want $240 for it.

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From: LipChip [#15]
 28 Apr 2006
To: basehorawards [#14] 28 Apr 2006

In regards to mug presses I've heard most of the best results come from the Nova Chrome USA press. Call Tim or John at Nova Chrome to find out which of their presses that is.

I myself use "only" mug wraps, and have found it to work with better results.

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16]
 28 Apr 2006
To: basehorawards [#14] 28 Apr 2006

James,

I haven't used a glazer.

The Hix full-wrap mug press, according to Mick, at Cactus equipment, is the design that all full-wrap presses are based on.

One aspect of a mug press, to look for, is its effective image area.
The heating blanket may look like it provides more coverage than the underlying heating element will support.

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From: basehorawards [#17]
 28 Apr 2006
To: LipChip [#15] 28 Apr 2006

What is a mug wrap?

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From: Mick [#18]
 28 Apr 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16] 28 Apr 2006

David
The Hix press isn't the design all are based on, Hix just happened to pick up the patent after it had legally expired when Sal Aramini (who got the patent) didn't pay maintainance fees ??? Questionable transaction that has cost Nova Chrome, Cactus and others many $$ and added to the cost of what you pay for a mug press.
It is cheaper to pay royalties than fight a patent.
Mick

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From: LipChip [#19]
 28 Apr 2006
To: basehorawards [#17] 29 Apr 2006

A "mug wrap" is a product used in the Dye Sublimation and "I think" OEM laser technologies, to heat transfer under pressure that is applied by tighting the "mug wrap" around the mug with the image on a transfer paper lined up inside of the "mug wrap" onto a mug. With the "mug wrap" tightened down, we place the mugs in our convection oven as the source for transferring the images from the transfer papers onto the mugs. You can read all about "mug wraps" from the experts like Mick at Cactus Equipment who frequents this forum, as well as the www.dyesub.org forum.

Mick / Dave - I hope I somewhat explained how the mug wrap works. Mick also has a new mug wrap out which I have not tried yet.

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From: LipChip [#20]
 28 Apr 2006
To: basehorawards [#17] 29 Apr 2006

When it comes to "mug wraps" and mug presses, please follow Mick's suggestions and knowledge as he is one of the "top" people in the decoration world using various methods. He could also follow up to how the "mug wrap" is used in the OEM laser toner decoration business.

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#21]
 28 Apr 2006
To: Mick [#18] 29 Apr 2006

Ahh, thank you Mick.

I thought Hix Corp. was the original inventor of the full-wrap concept.

No need to be the inventor, when you can be an opportunist. :-$ 

EDITED: 28 Apr 2006 by DGL

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From: Zonas [#22]
 30 Apr 2006
To: GBengraver [#1] 1 May 2006

I have the Nova Chrome Mug Press Pro. Yes, I like having it for those onzie -twozie type orders. Large orders I use mug wraps. Why....time is money ;-)  Mug press takes apx. 3 1/2 mins per mug. Wraps I do 8-12 (I only have 12 wraps) at 15 mins. I like both systems - my only complaint is with the digital readout on the mug press. I have to set the readout at 450 degrees to get 400 degree output (yes, I have a temperature gun). The pain is when something else needs a different temperature that I haven't tested and calculated. Yes, Nova Chrome was informed of this problem as soon as I received it. Was told to just keep upping the reading until it's right - No I wasn't please with the response, but it is something I can live with.

Zona
Zona's Engraved Creations

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