Full Version: What you see is not what prints.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1]
29 Apr 2006
To: ALL
I am at a loss. Any advice is appreciated.
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#2]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 29 Apr 2006
From: Mick [#3]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 29 Apr 2006
David
My HP Inkjet filled in the top round parts between the St Joe CTA and the vertical MSTA with solid black.
From: Patty (PDI) [#4]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 29 Apr 2006
After downloading and printing, I see your issue. The top of the column went black on me.
I've seen this before, often with files that have been open by a number of versions of Corel. My usual solution of breaking apart and reordering the layers didn't work.
Exporting it as an eps and bring it back into a new file did work though. Does this file solve the problem for you?
EDITED: 28 Jan 2007 by PDI
From: precisionlaser [#5]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 29 Apr 2006
I printed this on an HP OfficeJet and it appears to match perfectly...
Mark
From: logojohn [#6]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 29 Apr 2006
With ver 11 it filled in the top round parts even in the print preview window.
I saved it from x3 as as ver 11 and ver 9.
It still printed it wrong with ver 11.
I noticed there over 12,000 nodes in the bigglest object which includes some of the vertical columns. It might be choking on that number of nodes.
I tried to select all nodes of the biggest object and apply a node reduction but that didn't work. I then selected the nodes from one circle and the node reduction worked. After doing the same to the other side the print preview came out correct.
I took so many nodes out is distorted so I didn't attach it. But if you go through and do parts of it slowly so it doesn't distort it might print correctly in lower corel versions.
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From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7]
29 Apr 2006
To: ALL
Wow, that is some quick help for a Saturday. Thank you all!
I tried exporting it in several formats and importing it back in, but had the same results. I ended up converting it to a bitmap and tracing it back in. That took care of what I think was a layering issue.
Patty,
Your file did work for me. I'll be using it, because the image is cleaner. I lost a little sharpness with my bitmap conversion and retrace.
Again, thanks for the help!
EDITED: 29 Apr 2006 by DATAKES
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#8]
29 Apr 2006
To: logojohn [#6] 29 Apr 2006
John,
Your thought about the number of nodes choking the system could have some merit. This is the first time I've ever had this issue. I now know some new angles to take in dealing with it if it rears its evil head again.
From: logojohn [#9]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#8] 29 Apr 2006
I opened and ungrouped it and it is has a solid black layer behind which has the most nodes (about 3200 nodes if my memory is correct). The circles and columns are in several pieces with a white outline and white color layed over the top of the black layer.
The original was all combined as one with the black going around the white areas. This created the total node count over 12,000.
A full black object under the separate white ones in the new file were separate objects so the node count per object was much less.
EPS filter may have been smart enough to do that on purpose or might just handle things differently.
I have ran across the splittling of ojects before mostly when I could only open something in Adobe illustrator ver9 and saved it as a lower version before I had corel x3. It would open in ver 11 but I would sometimes get the objects in pieces like somebody sliced in in vertical strips.
That doesn't matter for lasering but is harder to edit. But I make engraveable logos most of the time so the objects have to be re-connected and must be conbineable so my hatch fill program will work. Layering will not work as even hidden vector lines will engrave on a rotary.
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From: JHayes55 [#10]
29 Apr 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#8] 29 Apr 2006
I think you have everything clear by now but just in case I did print it from X3 on my laser printer and it was perfect.
Hope you got my email on the item we talked about Friday.
Yesterday was a long day 6:30 am till 10:30 pm and back in today all day but I am about to quit - to tired - afraid I will make mistakes.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#11]
29 Apr 2006
To: JHayes55 [#10] 1 May 2006
I got the job done thanks to everyone's help.
I did get your e-mail later in the day and was going to respond tonight. I'll be doing a little research on that unit to see if it meets my needs. Thanks again!
From: spudislander (WILLM) [#12]
1 May 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 1 May 2006
Hi David,
I had to try it to see what the fuss was about.
I previewed fine bu woud not print the top or bottom of the column on my Xerox7750 I tried combing and nothing printed (still looked good in the print preview)
Broke it apart sent large black column pieces to back and selected ornamental detail pieces and coloured them white (they turned black after breaking apart.) Printed perfect after that.
Will