Full Version: Canon EOS 5D/DSLR Discussion
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#34]
16 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#32] 16 May 2006
If you ever have (large file size) photos to exhibit, send them to me and I'll post them.
What's a little band width between friends? :-)
From: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#35]
16 May 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#34] 16 May 2006
Thanks Dave, I'd be glad to post them here, if I ever get any imaged tile to photograph that is.
I must say that I find this forum much more receptive to new ideas and suggestions than DSSI. I feel much more at home here. This site seems to lack the acrimony and personal attacks evidenced on DSSI, at least with respect to my posts.
People here are into the larger picture; engraving, signage, manufacturing as much as transfer technology. I find it refreshing that dye-sub (and lasar) is but a sub-note here.
I think that speaks well of the wider business interests here and parallels much more closely what I was accustomed to in my former sign business. Dye Sub would have been just one tool of many in my daily production schedule.
I probably should have become a 'regular' here years ago..... ;-)
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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#36]
16 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#35] 16 May 2006
When I saw you being accused of running members off of DSSI, I couldn't believe what I was reading.
Although I made a tongue-in-cheek comment, when you first visited here, inviting you to run off as many EE members as you possibly could, I did so, with the full realization that it would be impossible.
Some people may not like the way you deliver a message, but your message is rarely without substance.
A Michael O'Hara post, is always worth a read. :-)
Thank you for joining us.
From: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#37]
16 May 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#36] 16 May 2006
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#38]
17 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#28] 17 May 2006
Mike, I spoke to my brother. He says he does use the combo to manipulate focus planes, but more often he is using it for perspective control. Here's a couple of samples. The 4x5 camera, BTW, is a Cambo, se he calls it the Canon Cambo Combo. :-)
These first two were both taken with the combo, but the second had the focus manipulated:
http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_1.jpg
http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_2.jpg
In this next example they are two identical model reception desks, one dark brown, one light. They were both shot in the standard "3 point" angle, with the camera above the center line and looking down at the product.
The first one was shot with the Canon alone. The second one is that same shot with perspective correction done in Photoshop. The third one was done with the combo camera with perspective correction done by moving the lens board. The Canon only shot uses a slightly wider angle lens, which does exagerate the distortion, but it would be there with any lens because of the camera looking down on the subject.
http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_3.jpg
http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_4.jpg
http://www.redtengu.com/images/raw/Eric_1Ds_5.jpg
This perspective control is also important for architectural photos.
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#39]
17 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#28] 17 May 2006
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#40]
17 May 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#36] 17 May 2006
If Hula Mike stays, I'm outta here!!!!
;-)
From: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#41]
17 May 2006
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#39] 17 May 2006
-Uconninator B-)
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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#42]
17 May 2006
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#40] 18 May 2006
If Mike goes, I'm outta here. : :P
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#43]
18 May 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#42] 18 May 2006
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#44]
19 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#35] 19 May 2006
Mike,
I'll probably have some ready by mid june if you want to come to Maui and shoot it.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#45]
19 May 2006
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#40] 19 May 2006
;-)
Hula Mike, Hula Boy.......
Ladies and Gentlemn.....introducing LIVE for the first time ANYWHERE, ( and probably the last) ......singing their new ( and probably only ) hit....
"I'm DYE-SUBBING for your Love"......
Lets give it up for the ..........HULA Brothers!
( insert screaming crowd noises here)
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From: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#46]
19 May 2006
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#45] 19 May 2006
HulaBruddas ? ;-)
I might just take you up on your offer. Any reason to visit Maui you know....where do you live?
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#47]
19 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#46] 19 May 2006
Mike, you might be right :D
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#48]
19 May 2006
To: ALL
This thread has gotten me to thinking, and with my HulaBrudda, I may have moved into a different intermediate catagory for a Camera.
Whilst browsing at Costco ( Yes we have one here) I came across the Canon 20D dslr.
Canon 20D
So I looked at the above review. It might be a great compromise......
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From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#49]
19 May 2006
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#48] 19 May 2006
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#50]
19 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#46] 19 May 2006
Kihei
From: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#51]
19 May 2006
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#48] 19 May 2006
Chuck, the 20D has been updated to the 30D. Not really sure about the difference in features vrs price point, Canon's not my system. I'd check it out first though.
What I will suggest is that you stop trying to make your decision based on price alone. Its just like buying a new computer. Price/features are important today but in 6 months? It will all be forgotten. What you buy today will be cheaper tomorrow. Just buy now for the features you need and don't look back. If Canon rings your chimes, I'd go for the 5D.
Besides, any cam you buy is a write off, right? Initial cost really isn't a consideration.
Check this DPR comparison for the 20D, 30D and 5D:
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From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#52]
19 May 2006
To: Mike (BIGPIXEL) [#51] 19 May 2006
Mike, price is not my only consideration.... it's value I am after. I am NOT a professional photog, nor likely will be. A hobbyist at best...and doing "product" photos and photos for murals will be the primary uses for the camera. the 5D is completely out of my price range. The ones I have been looking at would do the job.
What initially drew me to the Olympus was the value at the price point.....8 MP two lenses etc.....however, after reading your advice I could see that moving up and spending maybe 300 more would be worth the expense, and I could justify it.... the 30D is pushing my envelope.....my point and shoot olympus is working just fine for now, but at 2.1 mp it is most definitely YESTERDAY'S technology.....I will continue to research this until either my wallet catches up to price and features or price and features come down to my wallet......
I do appreciate your input and have recondsidered much because of it.....
In another thread, you mentioned you are glad you came here........( to this forum ) so are we. Thanks for your help..
Your HULA Brudda......
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#53]
19 May 2006
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#52] 19 May 2006
If money is tight, you might add the Rebel XT to that comparison too. It's smaller and cheaper, which leaves more money for good lenses. It is amazingly packed with features.
But if you lean in that direction I'd go somewhere and hold one in your hand. It's a solid camera, but a bit smaller than the "standard" SLR size. It works OK for me, even though I have large hands, but it does feel a bit compact compared to holding one of the larger ones.
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