Full Version: Vistool 6
From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#6]
19 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#5] 19 Jun 2006
OK.
What windows system are you using and I'll see if I can help out.
Puck
From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#7]
19 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#5] 19 Jun 2006
I just hooked up my cm-24 roland and cut a simple word layout off of it from vistool with out any problem. So let me know what your needing and I can probably walk you through the hook up maybe.
Puck
From: gt350ed [#8]
19 Jun 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#6] 19 Jun 2006
Thanks for any assistance.
From: gt350ed [#9]
19 Jun 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#7] 19 Jun 2006
The fact is that I have set the plotter up on it stand with the rollers, etc. and I have installed the Graphtec driver. That's it. I have not even installed the holder and cutter blade. Nor have I cabled it to the computer as yet.
From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#10]
19 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#9] 19 Jun 2006
gt350ed,
I will try and write down step by step for you to hook it up and give it a test run to make sure it will work with vistool. I'll PM them to you since probably nobody else needs instructions to do this if that OK with you?
Puck
EDITED: 19 Jun 2006 by PUCKERBRUSH
From: gt350ed [#11]
19 Jun 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#10] 19 Jun 2006
Thank you.
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#12]
19 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#5] 20 Jun 2006
From: John (ICTJOHN) [#13]
19 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#5] 20 Jun 2006
Ed,
Can you run it out of CorelDRAW since you have the proper driver???? I use CorelDRAW for my Roland Printer/Cutter and have few problems on the cutout, when there is an issue, Weld/Trim/Intersect work fine. That way you can take your time looking for a true cutter software package while doing the more simple banners/signs and learning the basics.
btw, I was looking at a map the other day and finally found Victorville. You are just to the left of my sister..... how far and what is the driving time to Yucca Valley????
From: gt350ed [#14]
20 Jun 2006
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#12] 20 Jun 2006
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#15]
20 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#14] 20 Jun 2006
Hi Ed,
I just figured if you had it...that you would already be set to go, and might not be aware of the options that you had.
I use the plugin that they offer for Illustrator. We print on our Roland printer, laminate, and then cut on a 54" Graphtec FC7000. It works like a dream....
We can also use it for cutting vinyl without the registration.
From: gt350ed [#16]
20 Jun 2006
To: John (ICTJOHN) [#13] 20 Jun 2006
Now you have mentioned using Corel. I have version 9 AND 12. Please tell me more, cause I haven't a clue. You would think that if my laser is just another "printer", so to speak, that runs Corel, why not the cutter/plotter? I'll be grateful for any assistance you can provide. I'm anxious to finally get up and running.
As for Victorville, our main artery is Interstate 15 which runs up out of the eastern Los Angeles basin and continues to Las Vegas, Salt Lake City and up into Montana. We are about 75 miles from Los Angeles and 175 miles from Las Vegas. We are in what's known as the High Desert (between 2300' and 4,000' elevation).
Yucca Valley is about 50 miles east of us.
From: John (ICTJOHN) [#17]
20 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#16] 20 Jun 2006
Ed,
You are on the right track. You have Corel already installed, now install your driver for the cutter. Design your layout in Corel, keep it simple just do a couple of words right now, then print it to your cutter.
In complex designs where you have vector lines crossing over each other, you will need to eliminate that. When in "wireframe" mode you can see when lines will cut on top of each other. This is where Weld/Trim/Intersect/Simplify will come in handy.
Do some simple text only type banners at the start so that will give you the basic feel for what you are wanting to accomplish. Once you get the feel of it, that will give you time to determine which software package you will want to purchase to do more advanced designs. Some packages were mentioned in other posts, I don't have any suggestions there.
Smart Designer has an add-on for CorelDRAW to automatically convert vector images to be vinyl ready.
hth,
From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#18]
20 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#16] 20 Jun 2006
gt350ed,
Sent you a PM on the setup last night, had trouble with the sending and getting on the forum last night so hope it went through.
Also sent the link for a coreldraw add on which works great for the $200
price tag. If your needing more info on how to set it up and use it with just plain old corel theres a good discussion on sign101.com on how to do it. Little to complex for me, I like the easy. (you set it up the same way I PM'd you with for the vistools, I.E. printer driver. That part I can do, it's the layout thats a learning curve.)
I tried hooking up both of my cutters with the serial cord this morning and can not get the program to run them, not sure if they are to old or the software download is missing the final cut manager since it seems to hang up on the stop and go buttons.
Puck
EDITED: 20 Jun 2006 by PUCKERBRUSH
From: gt350ed [#19]
20 Jun 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#18] 20 Jun 2006
Thank you.
From: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#20]
20 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#19] 20 Jun 2006
OK, sent another one to you just now. Check your PM Inbox.
Puck
From: gt350ed [#21]
20 Jun 2006
To: Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) [#20] Unread
From: JHayes55 [#22]
21 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#21] 22 Jun 2006
Ed - I have been following this thread. I would suggest you consider Co-Cut Pro. This is the program that I spoke to you about before. Since you have went to the expense of a nice cutter why not finish the job with a cutting program that works trouble free. I know that it is an investment but consider the fact that while trying to figure out another cutting program that will not work as effective as it should you could be learning a professional program and making money. Would you give up Corel Draw for a program that is much less capable - like Windows Paint to do your graphic work?? It's like using a heat gun to make mugs vs using a mug press.
How about beveling plastic with a knife verses a beveler from Quality One?
I have made more profit with a vinyl cutter in one day than Co-Cut Pro cost.
Scape the mold off the money, and let the moths fly free - go get a decent program and pay the fee.
From: gt350ed [#23]
22 Jun 2006
To: JHayes55 [#22] 22 Jun 2006
I understand that you are very high on Co-Cut/Smart-Cut Pro cutting software. However, that was not the point of the thread. It just does not make sense to "learn" off of an $800 program from a company that has already proven to me that they are more interested in sales than in providing support. This is not an idle comment on my part. After spending $3,400 with them, I would expect more than the less-than-thorough manuals I have received in conjunction with their other products. And phone support is only "support" if you are calling to make another purchase.
Once I figure out the basics of a cutter/plotter, and get some comfortability with the equipment, I may very well buy a product such as Co-Cut/Smart-Cut. Just not now.
And this cutter/plotter scenario is not a top priority. We're busier than a one-armed wallpaper hanger as we approach our third anniversary with the store. It's just that I walk past this brand new machine and wish I had a clue...and some software, to see if it even works. B-)
From: JHayes55 [#24]
22 Jun 2006
To: gt350ed [#23] 22 Jun 2006
Sorry about your problem with Smart Design - I really hate to hear that because I do like their software. I don't blame you for wanting to try out a software before purchase. I just know that after messing with some other software that the Co-Cut was by far the most seamless when working with Corel. Co-Cut should be available from other sources than Smart Design.
Hope it all works out well and if I can do anything to help let me know.
EDITED: 22 Jun 2006 by JHAYES55
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