Full Version: Old New Hermes
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#1]
3 Oct 2006
To: ALL
Over the week end I drove to PA to pick up a New Hermes GTX pantograph. I also got 4 sets of fonts in fairly good condition and the machine is quite nice compared to some I saw on EBAY.
Anyway, I don't have a clue as to how to use this gadget and am looking for tutorials if they are available so if anybody can point me in that direction I would appreciate it. Also, are there any worthwhile books on the subject?
I was thinking that I could make patterns and custom items in plastic on my laser and then use the pantograph to transfer them to metal. Has anybody had experience with that?
From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#2]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#1] 3 Oct 2006
http://www.quarterbore.com/store/cd/newhermesmanual.htm
AND
http://www.quarterbore-inc.com/newhermes.htm
Same person
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#3]
3 Oct 2006
To: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#2] 3 Oct 2006
Thank you , I'll check them out.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#1] 3 Oct 2006
Congratulations!
I've always said, "Ya gotta start somewhere." The GTX is a very versatile machine and a good place to start.
This is certainly an area of my expertise. I use a pantograph quite often.
I can answer any questions you may have, although, for the most part, in the way of PicTutorials, I'll be producing those for the Premium members of the subscription site.
Our new web site is close to fruition. I'll try not to keep you waiting too long. :-)
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#5]
3 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4] 3 Oct 2006
Thanks, you can count on me bugging you.
I'll look forward to the new site.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#5] 3 Oct 2006
What typefaces did you get with the machine?
Do you have a built-in need, with a particular item, or are you just preparing for whatver may come along?
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#7]
3 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6] 3 Oct 2006
I have 5/8" Dbl. line gothic, 5/8" dbl. line century, 1 1/2" single line block caps, and 2 1/2" Greek ( have some fraternity business).
I bid on a couple of thers on ebay but did not win the bid. If I can make my own patterns then I will probable only buy single line block in a 5/8" size.
There are some others I'd like to have but I have no immediate need for any. It just seems like every month I'm turning down some kind of job where I need to engrave metal and a computerized system is not feasible right now.
I'm just wondering if patterns made by laser will work as they seem to be the perfect answer to things like logos.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#8]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#7] 3 Oct 2006
Mike,
Laser-generated template/patterns will work, although you'll want to make sure they're about .020 in depth, so your stylus (the piece you trace with) won't slip out of the groove.
You can also use a lubricant on the template, to keep the stylus from hanging up.
EDITED: 3 Oct 2006 by DGL
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#9]
3 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#8] 3 Oct 2006
Thank you. As soon as I have the machine set up (tonight) I'll give it a try.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#9] 3 Oct 2006
Do you have practice material? If not, I'd be willing to send some alum. and brass from my scrap pile.
From: UncleSteve [#11]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#9] 3 Oct 2006
I just got my IL II today and I will be right behind you!! B-)
Lee Iacocca (sp), when he was chairman of Chrysler always said he "stands behind every car they build!" He wasn't stupid! He knew the kind of brakes they installed! >.<
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#12]
3 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10] 3 Oct 2006
Very kind of you but I have plenty of brass mistakes to practice on plus a lot of plastic. Some friends closed their business a few years ago and gave me a lot of engraving plastic.
I also have a boatload tools (lately unused) in my wood shop just begging to be engraved.
Thanks,
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#13]
3 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#11] 3 Oct 2006
Congratulations on your acquisition. My engraver actually came from your neck of the woods in Dresher, PA from Bob Laird.
I have a xeroxed operating instruction book which lists a lot of models, I-L included. If you need a copy PM your address and I'll make a copy for you.
From: UncleSteve [#14]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#13] 3 Oct 2006
For now I have Harvey as my "instruction book" but if you have some spare time I would appreciate it.
I have a 147 page general manual but not machine specific... more the history and basics of using a pantograph.
If you want a copy, it is in PDF format, it would be my pleasure to send you the file. Then we can both be totally confused!!! ;-)
Steve
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#15]
3 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#14] 3 Oct 2006
That I would love to have. If you don't mind send it to this address and leave out the asterisk; *mn@stl-laser.com
Thanks very much.
From: UncleSteve [#16]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#15] 3 Oct 2006
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#17]
3 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#16] 3 Oct 2006
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#18]
3 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#17] 3 Oct 2006
If you call Cross Pen Co. they'll send a jig free of charge.
(1-800-282-7677)
From: UncleSteve [#19]
3 Oct 2006
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#18] 3 Oct 2006
Thanks, I already got 2 sets from them and gave one to Harvey for the store...... :D
Now I have to pick up my Zippo jigs.. :-)
And get a couple of metal bits... the ones that came with the machine are all for plastics.... and I need a burnisher and drag bit... the drag bits from the GM are the short ones and the machine didn't come with an adapter... just takes the 4" long bits.
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#20]
3 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#19] 3 Oct 2006
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