Full Version: Rowmark's New Metalgraph

From: logojohn [#9]
 10 Oct 2006
To: LARRY (CENTURYBADGE) [#6] 11 Oct 2006

The outdoor vintage gold is not a laserable material but it can be lasered.
It may require more than one pass to get through the thick cap but that is a good thing if you want to use it outside. We sell a lot for outdoor to people who don't want to pay metal cast bronze prices.

For larger signs the 1/8 thick is better if you are using screws or lawn stakes for mounting since it is more rigid. Also the thicker can be lasered at higher power without warping due to the heat. Most places don't stock it but can special order it in 1/8

completed sample

rowmark page

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#10]
 10 Oct 2006
To: LARRY (CENTURYBADGE) [#6] 11 Oct 2006

Larry,

My suggestion would be to route (rotary engrave) and color-fill the material.

Durability of the outdoor gold, with a jet black image.

I've seen traditional Metallex, Metalply etc. (indoor) material, routed and color-filled.

My well-trained eye was fooled into thinking the material was actual brass. The sign was in the Gene Autry museum in L.A.

Of course, being an engraver, I was probably paying more attention to the signage, than the exhibits. :-) 

EDITED: 10 Oct 2006 by DGL

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
 10 Oct 2006
To: oneputt (NOUNOES) [#7] 11 Oct 2006

Thank you Phil.

Looks like Larry has been in touch with Rowmark.

Any custom materials coming down the pike, that you can talk about, without divulging company secrets. :-) 

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From: gt350ed [#12]
 10 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11] 11 Oct 2006

We'll be receiving a qtr sheet of "Copper Penny/Black" Metalgraph tomorrow (Wednesday). We'll report back as to how it lasers. Based on comments so far, I too may return it or get a credit.

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From: Peter [#13]
 10 Oct 2006
To: ALL

We got the flyers......The website spiel was amazing.....

the colour packs are sensational, the marketing is full on......

But in reality the product is shizenhausen...is this correct ?

Peter

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From: UncleSteve [#14]
 10 Oct 2006
To: Peter [#13] 10 Oct 2006

Seems like a product that rotary engraves well and "somebody" managed to laser..... They were HYPEnotized!!!! :O 

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From: Peter [#15]
 10 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#14] 10 Oct 2006

:D 

:P 

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16]
 11 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#12] 11 Oct 2006

Ed,

Looking forward to your observations.

Maybe even run some through your rotary machine. :-) 

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From: gt350ed [#17]
 11 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#16] 11 Oct 2006

Hey! As a result of my thread, I've had a visit from my Vision rep, Joel Brill. I'm a new man...until next month.

By the way, he's turned me on to Panterials. I'll be in touch with them soon. I'm aware that you do business with them.

Thanks.

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#18]
 11 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#17] 11 Oct 2006

Ed,

I'm glad to hear you're getting some help with your rotary/drag machine.

Opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

Yeah, I'm a Panterials customer. Mark Berlant and his sister Karen, are the owners.

Their (dearly departed) father was involved with New Hermes, as was Mark, until Mark founded Panterials.

Very nice folks. They'll treat you right. :-) 

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From: gt350ed [#19]
 11 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#18] 11 Oct 2006

This is NOT a replacement for your generous offer. I plan to take you up on it with a twist. I'll fill you in later. You might like it.

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From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20]
 11 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#19] 11 Oct 2006

Ed,

My offer has no expiration date. Any chance to visit with you and Sharon is a treat. :-) 

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From: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#21]
 11 Oct 2006
To: ALL

I just received my first test sheet today.

I lasered some test swatches with my ULS 30w with different settings. I also rotary engraved a piece.

Like most gold foils I've tried in the past it depends on how the light reflects whether the lettering is black or kinda milky black. When I hold the piece so the room light is highly reflected the lettering is jet black, otherwise, not very flattering. Didn't matter if it was laser or rotary engraved, the results are the same for me.

Maybe more testing is in order....

BTW, I used the Brushed Antique Gold/Black

EDITED: 11 Oct 2006 by INKSQUIRTER

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From: LARRY (CENTURYBADGE) [#22]
 12 Oct 2006
To: logojohn [#9] 13 Oct 2006

Hi ,
I purchased the vintage gold per your recomendation.
We are on our third pass with the laser and still not clean. What do you recomend we run it at and how many passes.
We have a 40 watt unit.
Larry

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From: Peter [#23]
 12 Oct 2006
To: ALL

To our mates at Rowmark,

You know blokes....You make a great range of products.....
I'd be hard pressed to use other brands ahead of Rowmark....

But...What on Earth is going on ?

Who's butt needs to be kicked here ?

B-) 

regards
Peter

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From: logojohn [#24]
 13 Oct 2006
To: LARRY (CENTURYBADGE) [#22] 13 Oct 2006

I only have done a couple with our new 40 watt so
don't have tweaked settings yet.

I started at 30 speed and adjusted it a little on the fly.
I think it took 4-5 passes but was busy doing other things
so just kept repeating to just get it done. it was the 1/16
thick so I didn't want to overdo it and warp it.

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