Full Version: Universal Versa
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1]
20 Oct 2006
To: ALL
LINK
EDITED: 21 Oct 2006 by DATAKES
From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#2]
20 Oct 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 20 Oct 2006
David,
Your link does not work for me. Also there is a large amount of white space between your post and your signature. I think something went wrong.
Dee
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3]
20 Oct 2006
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#2] 20 Oct 2006
I was able to get to the link, as well as see the picture of the Versa that David embedded into his post.
From: UncleSteve [#4]
20 Oct 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 20 Oct 2006
"Place your material on the VersaLaser table and press start. It's as simple as that. " :O
When it is THAT simple, we don't need no steenkin' forum! Just put it on the table and print money!
That sounds even easier than the sublimation money machines of the past years! ;-)
From: Gary (GNELSON) [#5]
21 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#4] 21 Oct 2006
Steve, The scary thing, it is about that simple ! They really tried to make it idiot proof. As long as you can pick the correct kind of material and tell it how thick it is, Then yes just push start!
I picked one up at ARA last year from Mike at CEM in Ca.
neat system just would not want it to be my only one, Can't use the first one or two inches on the left side of the machine,
I also have two Explorers II's. for the real work! LOL
EDITED: 21 Oct 2006 by GNELSON
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6]
21 Oct 2006
To: UncleSteve [#4] 21 Oct 2006
Evidently, the machine is more magical than you think.
Did you catch the line about how it embroiders images on candy tins and other materials?
From: UncleSteve [#7]
21 Oct 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6] 21 Oct 2006
Now you are just trying to "needle" me! ;-)
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8]
21 Oct 2006
To: Gary (GNELSON) [#5] 21 Oct 2006
From: Gary (GNELSON) [#9]
21 Oct 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8] 21 Oct 2006
A layout, thats the ticket. OK as soon as you have one just push start!
Funny thing is I would say about 70% of ASI people I deal with do there own layouts. and about half of them send .CDR files the other half .EPS
Who do you think they are marketing to? (Shhhhhhh)
Every day we lose more and more customers.
From: sprinter [#10]
21 Oct 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8] 21 Oct 2006
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From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#11]
21 Oct 2006
To: ALL
This is a really good price considering it comes with the air cleaner cart.
My guess is its another Versa Dealer that bit the dust and he is unloading his demo system.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to do those candy tins though. Once I figure it out I let you all know.
Hey Gary send me an e-mail I want to find out what software version you are running.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12]
21 Oct 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#11] 21 Oct 2006
Mike,
It also seems like a perfect set up for people looking to take their engraving act "on the road" considering the travel case is included.
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From: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#13]
21 Oct 2006
To: Gary (GNELSON) [#5] 21 Oct 2006
Gary,
I see that the Epilog Legend isn't the only one with the problem of having to move the work area to the right. What happens with your Versa? On my Epilog the letters, especially san sirif fonts go jagged.
Dave
From: gt350ed [#14]
21 Oct 2006
To: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#13] 22 Oct 2006
But we could not be happier with the Versalaser for what it is. As for "the real work", our Versalaser cost us about $9,800 in February of this year. In the 8 1/2 months we have had it, it has generated about $65,000 in revenue. Gosh! I wonder what we might do with "real work".
And, as for "having to move the work area to the right", we have no such problem or issue with our Versalaser.
This machine is very fast, engraves with high quality, and has software that makes everything quite automated.
It's a great machine.
Thank you Mike at C.E.M.!
From: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#15]
22 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#14] 22 Oct 2006
Ed,
I'm not unhappy with the Legend either. Just cannot use the far left edge. Just wish I had an bigger and faster one. Hope all is well with the 2 of you!
Oops, I hear the off topic thread police breathing down this post.
Dave
From: Gary (GNELSON) [#16]
22 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#14] 22 Oct 2006
Ed, You don't want "the real work" it seems like I am at the shop 24/7
It is 9:00 AM Sunday running a few things that need to be out of the way. Got a PO for 4500 2"X3 yesterday that get one line of engraving and need to start on the laser Tuesday so hear i am. :+(
The problem I have with the Versa is with AlumaMark It is a VERY fussy material, needing a VERY precise speed and power to get a nice black mark. On the Versa you get a WASHED out look to the mark in the first two inches. If you move it over it works fine. It's just a pain in the A**
I like the way GCC dealt with the issue that ALL lasers have and that was by having two table sizes. 34" and 37" there is a 3" spacer on the table. if you don't need the 37" you leave it in and run at max speed.
The 3" extra give you the over travel that is needed for the laser to get back to power and not wash out that first few inches.
If you need the 37" you take out the spacer and hit a button in the print driver and the laser runs a little slower.
This is not a problem with most materials on the Versa and you may have not noticed it yet but belive me it's there. and it's a pain in the A** and we use a LOT of AlumaMark.
EDITED: 22 Oct 2006 by GNELSON
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#17]
22 Oct 2006
To: Gary (GNELSON) [#16] 22 Oct 2006
Same problem with the old Optima, but only one inch. So I made a 1" shim to put on the left and move the layout when doing raster.
It is an easy solution and still gives full table for slower speeds and vector which is normally low speed anyway.
From: gt350ed [#18]
22 Oct 2006
To: Gary (GNELSON) [#16] 22 Oct 2006
AlumaMark is notoriously "fussy". And, from things I have read, it has NOTHING to do with the laser; of ANY brand. It's the material. So why say "The problem I have with the Versa..."? It's more a matter of dialing in the settings that produce the best result.
I certainly don't have the experience that you may have, but nevertheless, I think it is somewhat presumptous and a bit misleading to newbies lurking out there to claim that "ALL" lasers have the "issue" that you are describing.
Just to repeat, and hopefully to clarify, we have two laser engravers. And NEITHER of them have "wash out" problems such as you have described in YOUR experience.
I know you are well-intentioned. But please don't claim to speak for "ALL" when some of us are telling you that we don't have the problem that you are describing; on at least two separate pieces of equipment.
From: Gary (GNELSON) [#19]
22 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#18] 23 Oct 2006
From: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) 12 Apr 04:01
To: John (ICTJOHN) 12 Apr 05:11 25 of 30
3482.25 In reply to 3482.17
John,
I normally steer clear of situations like this, but since you bring up the evolution of your Xenetechs, I'll add a story.
At a Xenetech sales meeting several years ago, the late Jay Hoffpauir fielded the question this thread is addressing. He asked us which we wanted:
1) the extra two inches of engraving area on your Aurora
2) loss of two inches but no problem engraving up to the rulers.
Decision was made for the latter; hence your newer system engraves up against the ruler @ 120in/sec. So as many will attest, the problem can be solved, but as laserman suggests, it is certainly something with which we have to deal and difficult decisions have to be made. Hopefully, John McDaniel will jump in here and explain the part servo feedback plays in this scenario.
EDITED: 22 Oct 2006 by GNELSON
From: Gary (GNELSON) [#20]
23 Oct 2006
To: gt350ed [#18] 23 Oct 2006
"I have read, it has NOTHING to do with the laser"
It has EVERY thing to do with the laser. Send me you address and I will send you some AlumaMark you can see for your self. YOUR Versa will do it also! If you had read ever thing I have said about the Versa you will note I said you don't see it on MOST materials.
"I certainly don't have the experience that you may have, but nevertheless, I think it is somewhat presumptous and a bit misleading to newbies lurking out there to claim that "ALL" lasers have the "issue" that you are describing."
As you can see from Roy's post ALL Lasers have this "issue"
it comes down to how well the manufacture has dealt with it,
and dose it show up in your application?
over all I think the Versa is a great little machine it would have been nicer if they had allowed for two more inches of over travel so I would not need to nudge AlumaMark over!
Also 12X16 table size REALLY screws up EngravPro. But thats a whole new can of worms and I do have Two Explores to deal with that end of production. My bad for not knowing that you start out with a 12 X 16 page. Got to do the homework! To big of a rush to go play cards. :+(
EDITED: 23 Oct 2006 by GNELSON
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