Full Version: Pocket watch
From: basehorawards [#1]
20 Dec 2006
To: ALL
I have a customer bringing in a pocket watch for me to rotary engrave. What font do you use when engraving watches and such?
I told her we could not put the Gettysburg Address on a watch but I think that what she wants is close so it will be pretty small (she rattled off about 10 words).
From: Vicky (ANDERI) [#2]
20 Dec 2006
To: basehorawards [#1] 20 Dec 2006
Are you really rotary engraving, or diamond dragging? We generally use a 2-line slant script.
I never understand why people insist on engraving novels onto the back of jewellery. :/
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#3]
20 Dec 2006
To: basehorawards [#1] 20 Dec 2006
It all depends on the watch and the room left to engrave. We carry a line of pocket watches and drag them all. Some have a blank side, some have a tiny initial panel that takes three letters of about .09" tall.
The fonts we use are Vanessa, Roman 3 line, Margaret (Double Block), Century 2 line, Helvetica Bold, & Script 2 line, in approximately that order of demand.
From: basehorawards [#4]
20 Dec 2006
To: Vicky (ANDERI) [#2] 20 Dec 2006
I will be diamond engraving. I had not even thought about a script. I will have to try that on my watch too.
Thanks,
Edit: I told her that there is not a lot of room so we can not do a lot. That is when she rattled off some thing like "Thank you Grandpa for these 37 wonderful years."
I told her we would do a quick layout to see how small it will be.
EDITED: 20 Dec 2006 by BASEHORAWARDS
From: basehorawards [#5]
20 Dec 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#3] 20 Dec 2006
I looked in my Xenetech Fonts book and Vanessa is not listed. Is it much different than the script 2 line?
I need to figure out how to adjust the kerning on that font and how to save it so that I don't have to do it manually each time.
WIth as many words as she wants I think it will have to be a pretty plain font to be readable.
Thanks,
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6]
20 Dec 2006
To: basehorawards [#5] 21 Dec 2006
From: basehorawards [#7]
21 Dec 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6] 21 Dec 2006
From: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#8]
21 Dec 2006
To: basehorawards [#7] 21 Dec 2006
If the Xenetech double-line script won't work, you might want to check the fonts available at lamro.com.
Hope that helps!
From: basehorawards [#9]
21 Dec 2006
To: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#8] 21 Dec 2006
Jeanette,
I think that it will work. If the lower case are too small I can adjust that manually.
Is there an easy way to redo the font to fix the kerning. Especially the capital letters?
Thanks,
From: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#10]
21 Dec 2006
To: basehorawards [#9] 21 Dec 2006
Yes, there's an easy way -- I'm sure of it. I just don't know how to do it! :/
I'm playing for a funeral at church so I'll be out of pocket (from 12:30pm-2:00pm Central) but if you're desperate for help on this ASAP, let me know. I'll hunt someone down for you.
If you can wait until tomorrow AM, daddy (aka Roy Brewer) will see this message tonight and will post instructions.
From: basehorawards [#11]
21 Dec 2006
To: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#10] 21 Dec 2006
No rush. The watch has not come in.
Thanks again,
From: logojohn [#12]
21 Dec 2006
To: basehorawards [#7] 21 Dec 2006
You can also adjust the spacing between any letter combinations of any truetype font there.
There is a Xenetech font called Victoria that is a non connected script.
The original ini file for it is very bad.
I havent tweaked the ini file for it so just use a tt font instead. For small items just use the tt font outline and no need to hatchfill.
I have tweaked the Double line script ini file over time since I use it more.
To edit just [ctrl][shift][i] or misc-edit ini file in the XLG menu.
scroll down in the bottom left box and choose
Dlscript which is the ini file for the Double Line Script. Your spelling may vary if you have a different version of the font.
Copy and past the text below between the underlines in the top box instead of what is there. Make a copy of what is there now and save it in a regular text file in case you don't like mine so you can change it back. You can copy and paste to it like a simple text file.
You can also just replace the attached Dlscript.ini file in your c:\xfiles\fnt folder for the one there. You may want to just move yours to another folder in case you want to change it back. You can rename my file if yours has a slightly different name.
I have just tweaked it as needed so there still may be some changes needed.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[Comments]
ForFont=This is the kerning pair set for DLSCRIPT.FNT
[KernUC]
AC=-300
BC=-300
CC=-300
DC=-200
EC=-300
FC=-300
GC=-100
HC=-400
IC=-300
JC=-300
KC=-300
LC=-300
MC=-300
NC=-300
OC=-300
PC=-300
QC=-300
RC=-100
SC=-400
SD=-300
TC=-300
UC=-300
VC=-500
WC=-500
XC=-300
YC=-300
ZC=-900
[KernMX]
Av=0
Ap=-50
Aw=0
aN=-200
Be=100
Bi=250
Bl=100
Bo=250
Br=100
Ca=180
Co=220
Ce=200
Ch=100
Cl=200
Co=150
Cu=200
Da=100
De=50
Di=250
Do=270
eD=-250
Ed=150
El=100
Em=100
Es=100
Fa=300
Fe=250
Fi=300
Fo=300
Fu=300
Ga=200
Gi=200
Gr=200
Il=150
Ja=250
Je=260
Jo=260
Ji=260
Ju=230
La=150
Ma=100
Me=150
My=100
Mi=150
Mo=150
Ni=250
No=250
Oc=200
Pa=170
Pe=250
Ph=300
Po=250
Pr=250
Qu=0
Ro=100
Ru=100
Ta=200
Te=200
Th=150
Ti=200
To=80
Tu=80
Tr=200
Tw=0
Ty=0
Va=0
Ve=0
Vo=0
Wa=250
We=250
Wi=50
Wh=250
Wl=250
Wo=250
Wr=250
Ya=250
Ye=250
Yo=250
[KernLC]
ac=0
af=0
ao=0
at=0
au=0
av=0
aw=0
ax=0
ay=0
du=0
ew=0
ex=0
ey=0
ke=0
ko=0
ku=0
mu=0
nu=0
n-=-200
ol=50
ra=0
rc=0
re=0
ro=0
sy=0
st=0
wa=0
we=0
w,=0
w.=0
ya=0
ye=0
yo=0
ys=0
y,=0
y.=0
16=50
18=50
10=50
19=200
22=300
24=250
25=250
26=150
29=200
20=200
28=200
99=250
00=200
03=200
04=200
05=200
00=100
12=100
1,=200
2,=200
3,=200
4,=200
5,=200
6,=200
7,=200
8,=200
9,=200
0,=200
h =-100
d =-800
, =-120
d =-200
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From: basehorawards [#13]
21 Dec 2006
To: logojohn [#12] 21 Dec 2006
John,
This is great! I knew it had to be fairly straight forward.
Merry Christmas,
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#14]
3 Jan 2007
To: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#10] 3 Jan 2007
What do you play? Piano? Harmonica?
From: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#15]
3 Jan 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#14] 3 Jan 2007
A harmonica would be SO much easier -- throw it in your purse & you can take it wherever you go! I should try it, but, alas, I am a pianist.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#16]
3 Jan 2007
To: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#15] 3 Jan 2007
From: John (ICTJOHN) [#17]
3 Jan 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#16] 3 Jan 2007
Dave,
Now, if she was a pianist for Barry M, I don't think she would remember a single note.................. just look up at him with those big "puppy dog eyes" :O)
From: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#18]
4 Jan 2007
To: John (ICTJOHN) [#17] 4 Jan 2007
Wow -- my OTHER dream job! Wonder how I would apply for it?
(Shhhh! Don't tell daddy I'd consider giving up my CURRENT dream job for the Mr. Manilow gig!)