Full Version: Impact Engraver on Steroids!

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1]
 29 Dec 2006
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) 29 Dec 2006

Mike,

With your long history in the engraving industry, I thought you may have the answer to this question:

Yesterday, I was shown an example of engraving and asked if I can match it.

At first glance, the engraving looked like a rotary-engraved, gothic typeface, in .060 engravers (leaded/yellow) brass.

Upon closer inspection, it was obvious that the engraving was done on some sort of industrial-strength impact machine.

A fine dot pattern could be seen and viewing the plate from behind, showed where the metal had been stressed, in a faint mirror image of the engraving.

Although the engraving wasn't color-filled, I have no doubt it was deep enough for color-filling.

Years ago, I remember seeing a piece of equipment called "The Incredible Machine" which was an impact engraver, but I doubt it would have been "robust" enough for this application.

What do you think?

Thanks,

EDITED: 29 Dec 2006 by DGL


From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#2]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#1] 29 Dec 2006

David,

Take a look at Kwikmark's machine.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#2] 29 Dec 2006

Thank you David.

Just when you think you've seen it all. :-)

I'm actually looking for someone with that type of equipment (in SoCal) to whom I can refer this customer.

I'll inquire within.

From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#4]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 29 Dec 2006

David;

Similar machines are made by Pryor, Telesis, Technifor, etc. They are collectively referred to as dot peen or pin stampers. They also mfg 'drag' equipment. You might want to contact a local tool and die shop to see if they have the equipment. Companies involved in UID marking might also have this 'technology'. Most companies that do work for the aerospace and automotive industries should have one or more.

I've used quite a few pin stampers in the development of Data Matrix symbols.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#4] 29 Dec 2006

Thank you Carl.

I think these plates were done for the military, which makes me think a metal fabrication house (or similar) may have been involved.

Thanks for the links. Interesting stuff!

EDITED: 29 Dec 2006 by DGL


From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#6]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 29 Dec 2006

If they are done for the military, they almost have to be MIL-STD-130 compliant. Search for "UID marking + California" and you'll get a lot of companies that have that capability in California.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#6] 29 Dec 2006

Thanks again Carl.

You're a bubbling fountain of information. :-)

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 29 Dec 2006

Then there is always the 100 ton screw press or knuckle press that uses a stamping die, but not for onsies.

From: clay (CLAY_J1955) [#9]
 29 Dec 2006
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8] 29 Dec 2006

and dont forget the low stress steel stamp. low stress fonts are made up of a series of dots.

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