Full Version: What's the best way to handle this job?
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#1]
10 Jan 2007
To: ALL
I am in need of some of suggestions. I have a customer that is interested in having their logo in color put onto these black plastic boxes. The boxes are flat the size is about 4" x 3" and about 3/4" thick.
Now my question is what would be the ecomomical way to handle this job. The only way I could handle this in house is with oem transfer paper and my heat press (hobby style). Oh did I mention that they want about 2,000 of these done.
Do any of you know of another method of doing this job? I thought maybe pad printing? Not sure, and definitely would not know how to price something like this.
Any suggestions?
Thanks Cindy
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#2]
10 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#1] 10 Jan 2007
Hi Cindy,
You could do the job with sublimatable or standard white aluminum and use a performance permanant adhesive laminated on the back. We can supply either type of metal with the adhesive laminate on the back in full sheets for you to cut, or pre-cut to size, and ready to press.
I can send you some samples to test if you would like to try some.....
EDITED: 10 Jan 2007 by RALLYGUY1
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#3]
10 Jan 2007
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#2] 10 Jan 2007
This customer is looking for the printing to be on the box itself. I asked him about maybe using stickers but he was not interested in that.
I don't think making a plate to adhere to the box would work for this customer. Any other suggestions?
Thanks Cindy
From: UncleSteve [#4]
10 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#1] 10 Jan 2007
Screening is the only way I can think of since they are black to start with.
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#5]
10 Jan 2007
To: UncleSteve [#4] 10 Jan 2007
They have the boxes. These boxes will house some type of electronic devices when they are completed. My understanding is they will give me the empty boxes to have the logo put on them and then they will put the electronics in them.
He will give me a couple of the boxes to play with. I was not sure how the oem transfer would hold up on the boxes. I'm also not sure of the application of the boxes, where they will go and how much handling they will recieve. These are questions I will need to ask.
For 2,000 would screening be a cheaper application than using the oem transfer?
Thanks Cindy
From: Mick [#6]
10 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#5] 11 Jan 2007
How many colors are you talking about ?
Also, what is the plastic (PVC/ABS/Acrylic etc)?
EDITED: 10 Jan 2007 by MICK
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#7]
10 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#5] 11 Jan 2007
It depends on a number of things....
What do you think your time and materials are worth if you do them via oem transfer? It all depends on how efficient the whole decorating process is for you......
Since the boxes are black you really need to add white if you are going full color, no matter what process you end up using. One option would be to have a white field screen printed on them and then applying oem transfer to that....You would have to test to verify ink adhesion, and then effects of heat on the plastic and screened ink, but that may work pretty well. Other than the cost of shipping, printing, and taking lots of labor in applying the transfers......
We screen print 3 dimensional products like you have there regularly....but can't screen on that particular type of product in full color. The quantity seems large, but is not that big for pad printing (which would be your best full color option if the image area isn't too large)
EDITED: 11 Jan 2007 by RALLYGUY1
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#8]
11 Jan 2007
To: Mick [#6] 11 Jan 2007
Plastic is ABS and the logo has two colors black but mostly red..
Thanks Cindy
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#9]
11 Jan 2007
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#7] 11 Jan 2007
I talked to a guy that does screen printing (we both use each others services when needed) he said this type of product could not be screen printed. I will look into pad printing but do not know anyone my area that does that. I will have to check around. I will also get some samples and see how they work with the oem transfer paper. My concern would be would this type of plastic hold up to the heat press?
And how durable would this process be..
Thanks for all the help in thinking this process thru..
Cindy
From: sawdr73 [#10]
11 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#9] 11 Jan 2007
Cindy,
I might be able to help you. I do some pad printing. I think you said the boxes are black and that the logo is black and red, mostly red. That may not work out too well since the red will not show up very well on black. Then how would you separate the black in the logo from the black substrate? I am willing to give it a try if you could send me a sample box to test ( also need the art work).
I am in southwest Arkansas. Where in Mississippi?
Mickey Parker
Vital Signs
McNeil, AR 71752
mickey-parker@sbcglobal.net
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#11]
11 Jan 2007
To: sawdr73 [#10] 11 Jan 2007
Mickey,
Thanks for the offer. You brought up some valaid points. I think I need to discuss this with my customer again and go over some details.
Will let you know if I need your offer.
Thanks Cindy
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#12]
11 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#9] 11 Jan 2007
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#13]
11 Jan 2007
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#12] 11 Jan 2007
Something about running one color letting that dry and then having to run the second color letting that dry and so forth. He suggented that pad printing would probley be the best way to handle this job, and he does not offer pad printing.
I'm not sure as I personally don't do either process myself and don't know anything about the process.
Thanks Cindy
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14]
11 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#9] 11 Jan 2007
Cindy,
We use Mulholland Plastics in Fort Worth, TX for pad printing. They do very nice wholesale pad printing and screen printing work. They have done some very odd shaped items we have presented them with. 800-726-1445
EDITED: 11 Jan 2007 by DATAKES
From: Mick [#15]
11 Jan 2007
To: cindy (ROBERTM) [#8] 12 Jan 2007
Cindy
ABS is very easy to print using the OEM, I have only printed on white though. It will withstand the temp I use for OEM transfer.
Mick
From: cindy (ROBERTM) [#16]
12 Jan 2007
To: Mick [#15] 12 Jan 2007
Thanks for the reply. My customer will get me some samples to try with sooo we will see how it goes.
Cindy