Full Version: Your rotary and you....
From: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#1]
12 Jan 2007
To: ALL
On my ULS rotary it is difficult when I have to center engraving in a specific place because the piece rotates 180 degrees before engraving making placement difficult.
How easy, or difficult, would your machine make this job? I have to do some dry runs to make sure things will be aligned properly.
If any ULS folks would like to share your secrets I am listening.
Laserman, if you're reading this I am having a problem with the exact positioning and I would really like to make this work.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#2]
12 Jan 2007
To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#1] 12 Jan 2007
I don't have any problems with the ULS VersaLaser rotary. It centers the graphic from CorelDraw at the centerline of the glass/mug (and the rotary). In between runs, you have to zero the rotary position by going to the focus tab and click on Rotary. That's all it takes for the VersaLaser.
All this may be different for your model. It's documented in the THIN manual that I received with the laser though.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#3]
12 Jan 2007
To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#1] 12 Jan 2007
If, and that is a big IF, I remember my setup for my old ULS rotary device, (normally have to look up the printout), it is not that hard.
They tell you to make the page layout one circumference high. Make it only the exact width of the area and line it up at the left edge of the area being straight up. PLEASE do this with the laser pointer first to be certain that I am right.
EDITED: 12 Jan 2007 by HARVEY-ONLY
From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#4]
12 Jan 2007
To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#1] 12 Jan 2007
Brian,
There really is no easy way to do this because you can not remove and replace each mug in the exact same position.
So what I would do is to place the mug into the rotary then press the X/Y button on the laser using the down arrow key rotate the rotary until you get 180 degrees on the readout.
Then move the mug until the red diode is center with the graphic.
Then center your text vertically in the Corel page.
then press the X/Y and turn off the red diode and run the file.
Unfortunately you will have to do this with each mug because there is no physical stop to locate each mug in the rotary.
If you could make a mark on each mug and on the rotary cone you could possibly line up these marks and achieve the same thing however this is all set by just eye balling.
The biggest problem is that there is no way to place the mug into the exact position once the first one is done and you want to run the second one unless you can come up with a stop to line them up with.
From: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#5]
12 Jan 2007
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#4] 12 Jan 2007
Mike,
We can use the red dot to position on flat objects, why can't we put the object in the rotary and use the red dot and arrows to find the center of the engraving.....then use these coordinates to do the same thing as on flat?
That would be a great help!
From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#6]
12 Jan 2007
To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER) [#5] 12 Jan 2007
Brian,
The problem again is changing the mugs and putting them in the same position each time.
You could do this but each time you will have to move your text to line up with the position of the graphic on the mug.
We no that the rotary turns 180 degrees on start so if we use this and then line the red diode up with the center of the graphic on the mug the text will stay in the same position within Corel.
Either way you will move the text to the position of the mug or you will move the mug to the position of the text.
With the flat plates you can make stops for locations and then repeat the engraving over and over in the same spot, with the rotary it is a lot harder.
I would probably take some masking tape and place it on the top edge of the mug, make a mark where the center of the graphic is. Now with the first one you do once you rotate it 180 degrees and center the red diode to the mark on the mug then make a reference mark on the rotary cone. Once that is done you could line up the two marks and it should be close.
Experiment with one to see if that will work.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7]
12 Jan 2007
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#6] 13 Jan 2007
Mike,
I'm curious, is this something that could be addressed with the driver software in the future? This is one of the reasons I haven't used my rotary attachment well over a year.
EDITED: 12 Jan 2007 by DATAKES
From: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#8]
15 Jan 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7] 15 Jan 2007
Dave,
In a simple answer YES, It has already been changed with the Versa Lasers and I expect it to be implemented into the Professional series systems.
Please do not take this as absolute fact this is not my decision just my opinion.