Full Version: Forum slow?
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#10]
19 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#7] 19 Jan 2007
This has happened several times that I can remember, but was fixed by the next day....hopefully it will be corrected by tomorrow.
Boy....this reminds me of the cursed dial up days.............Not enjoying the dejavu.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#11]
19 Jan 2007
To: ALL
The EE server has been great, but this has been the longest case of server-drag for me as well. I have run into the same thing multiple times on other free engraving forums. It is one of the many obstacles justifying the switch over to a dedicated server, or at least a virtual dedicated server.
The bottom line, it's time to move on! I think it is about time for David to take a leap of faith and take EE to a subscription site so that he is afforded the opportunity to avoid this situation in the future.
As members, it's time for us to step up and show our support for this venue of valued communication. I just paid $300.00 for a local civic organization membership, knowing that I wouldn't reap the same benefit as that I get from the information gained from this forum. Based on that figure, I don't need to tell you what I'd be willing to pay to keep in touch with all of you awesome folks.
Who's in!
EDITED: 19 Jan 2007 by DATAKES
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12]
19 Jan 2007
To: ALL
I talked to Go Daddy.
They performed some MySQL maintenance, earlier in the day, but nothing that would cause a slow down.
They suggested the possibility of problems with routers (across the country/world) that lead to the server.
No server problems from the Go Daddy side.
At this point (12:42 am) PST, speed is back up to normal.
EDITED: 20 Jan 2007 by DGL
From: GBengraver [#13]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12] 20 Jan 2007
Still slow here David.
Greg
From: UncleSteve [#14]
20 Jan 2007
To: GBengraver [#13] 20 Jan 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15]
20 Jan 2007
To: Shaddy [#4] 20 Jan 2007
Any improvement in speed?
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#16]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15] 20 Jan 2007
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#17]
20 Jan 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#11] 20 Jan 2007
Who's in!
I"m in. Always have been. Sent my dues to David months ago.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#18]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15] 20 Jan 2007
David,
It was slow here as well, but today ( Saturday) it is working fine.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#19]
20 Jan 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#16] 20 Jan 2007
I was fortunate enough, through "luck of the draw" to have the Go Daddy online support team leader field my call.
I asked if there would be a benefit to being on a virtual dedicated server.
His answer surprised me.
I was told that, even though there would be fewer sites on those servers, they generally see much more intensive use and the potential for disruptions may actually be greater there.
I was also told that all servers are monitored 24/7/365 and "balanced" over a number of servers, to ensure that no single server is overwhelmed.
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#20]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#19] 20 Jan 2007
From: Shaddy [#21]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15] 20 Jan 2007
Yep, an improvement. It started last night. Seems weird that it got faster after you called Go Daddy, even if they said everything was OK. You think they did something?
SHaddy
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#22]
20 Jan 2007
To: Shaddy [#21] 20 Jan 2007
It's entirely possible. I was put on hold a couple of times, for what seemed like extended periods.
Judging by my experience with John Fish as our hosting, in times of slow downs, or when the site went down, it would occasionally be necessary to reset the server.
Overall, I'm pleased with Go Daddy. The 24/7 live tech support people have been very competent and have effectively dealt with any issues.
EDITED: 20 Jan 2007 by DGL
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#23]
20 Jan 2007
To: GBengraver [#13] 21 Jan 2007
Still running in molasses mode?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#24]
20 Jan 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#17] 20 Jan 2007
You were amongst the handful of people who showed early $upport for the subscription site.
Thank you.
That show of support came at a particularly tumultuous time and to show my gratitude, I have something special in mind for those people.
I've always been reticent to predict an actual launch date, but things are coming together, to the point where we'll make an official announcement, sometime during the next month.
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#25]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#24] 20 Jan 2007
Very cool David...I look forward to what you have planned. It's great to see things look to be moving forward for you.....
It had been so long since we had an update, I though you might have had second thoughts.........
I'll be there when you go live.......
From: Ruben (QUIEROLEARN) [#26]
20 Jan 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#11] 20 Jan 2007
Dave,
I'm in... and have been for a long time :-)
Ruben
EDITED: 20 Jan 2007 by QUIEROLEARN
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#27]
20 Jan 2007
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#25] 20 Jan 2007
Brian,
Delays, but never second thoughts.
Some snags were in the logisitics/personnel, others, in deciding which way to best keep our "one big happy family" intact. That was my primary concern.
The site will constantly be evolving, athough we feel we've found a viable way to kick things off.
It's an amazingly simple plan.
Happy to know you'll be coming along. :-)
EDITED: 20 Jan 2007 by DGL
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#28]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#19] 20 Jan 2007
David,
Here is a response I got from GoDaddy to an inquiry I made last night in reference to the virtual dedicated server option.
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Dear David Takes,
Thank you for contacting Online Support. Virtual dedicated servers are better suited for high traffic sites. The site would likely run better on a virtual dedicated server, not only because there are less users per server on a virtual dedicated plan, but also because there is more ability to optomize the configuration of the server for the particular site. Please let us know if we can help you in any other way.
Sincerely,
Garrett S.
Online Support Technician
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#29]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#19] 20 Jan 2007
I think this might be somewhat misleading. Sites that are on dedicated servers do tend to see much more intensive use. But it's not that they see more intensive use because they are on dedicated servers. It is that they are on dedicated servers because they are receiving more intensive use.
There is also a big difference between a dedicated server and a virtual dedicated server. The virtual version is still a shared server and restricts a site to a certain percentage of the resources on that server.
A standard shared server can have any number of sites, from a few dozen to a few hundred. There is no mechanism to prevent one of the sites on the server from slowing other sites down when that one site is using too much of the available resources.
A virtual dedicated server can have between about 8 and maybe 30 sites on a server. Different hosting companies do it differently. It does have mechanisms in it to limit the effect one site can have on another. It restricts the maximum amount of memory, CPU cycles, and bandwidth any given site can use. This prevents one site from grinding the whole server to a crawl, but it also means that none of the sites can deal well with momentary peaks.
On a true dedicated server there is one site on the server (there can be more if you set it up that way yourself, but that's your option, not the hosts). That one site gets all the resources of the server. The harware and software can be optimized specifically for how that site needs it. This is of course also the most expensive option. The drawback is that you typically have to configure and administer the server yourself, and might not know the best way to do that.
While we're at it, a dedicated server at one hosting company is not the same as one at another host. Each data center is set up differently, and has different abilities, strengths and weaknesses. When a hosting company gets stretched too thin they should build a new data center, iseally in a different city. But they often keep stretching their current ones based on average usage instead of peak usage.
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