Full Version: Forum slow?
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#29]
20 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#19] 20 Jan 2007
I think this might be somewhat misleading. Sites that are on dedicated servers do tend to see much more intensive use. But it's not that they see more intensive use because they are on dedicated servers. It is that they are on dedicated servers because they are receiving more intensive use.
There is also a big difference between a dedicated server and a virtual dedicated server. The virtual version is still a shared server and restricts a site to a certain percentage of the resources on that server.
A standard shared server can have any number of sites, from a few dozen to a few hundred. There is no mechanism to prevent one of the sites on the server from slowing other sites down when that one site is using too much of the available resources.
A virtual dedicated server can have between about 8 and maybe 30 sites on a server. Different hosting companies do it differently. It does have mechanisms in it to limit the effect one site can have on another. It restricts the maximum amount of memory, CPU cycles, and bandwidth any given site can use. This prevents one site from grinding the whole server to a crawl, but it also means that none of the sites can deal well with momentary peaks.
On a true dedicated server there is one site on the server (there can be more if you set it up that way yourself, but that's your option, not the hosts). That one site gets all the resources of the server. The harware and software can be optimized specifically for how that site needs it. This is of course also the most expensive option. The drawback is that you typically have to configure and administer the server yourself, and might not know the best way to do that.
While we're at it, a dedicated server at one hosting company is not the same as one at another host. Each data center is set up differently, and has different abilities, strengths and weaknesses. When a hosting company gets stretched too thin they should build a new data center, iseally in a different city. But they often keep stretching their current ones based on average usage instead of peak usage.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#30]
20 Jan 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#29] 21 Jan 2007
At this time, our affordable option would be a virtual dedicated server.
Thank you for the rundown of the various pros and cons.
From: Franklin (FW_HAYNES) [#31]
21 Jan 2007
To: Ruben (QUIEROLEARN) [#26] 21 Jan 2007
OF COURSE I AM IN AND HAVE BEEN IN SINCE THE VERY FIRST TIME I HEARD THE ANNOUNCEMENT!
Just tell me when and where to drop the loot.
From: Shaddy [#32]
21 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15] 21 Jan 2007
As of 8:00 PST, it's slow again (even slower than before). I'm in WA state, if that helps track anything.
Shaddy
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#33]
21 Jan 2007
To: Shaddy [#32] 22 Jan 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#34]
21 Jan 2007
To: Shaddy [#32] 22 Jan 2007
I'm on the phone with Go Daddy now.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#35]
21 Jan 2007
To: ALL
It's looking like a server upgrade will be inevitable.
Last year, we averaged over 2,600 posts per month. Year-to-date, we're averaging 100 posts per day.
That's the good news.
The fact that we're on a shared server, with 100's of sites, coupled with the fact that we have a database that's growing very rapidly, is taking its toll.
At the moment, from my location on the West Coast, we're back up to full speed.
That's probably due to much less overall traffic on the server(s).
EDITED: 21 Jan 2007 by DGL
From: GBengraver [#36]
21 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#23] 22 Jan 2007
Nope, running fine now.
Greg
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#37]
6 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12] 6 Feb 2007
From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#38]
6 Feb 2007
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#37] 6 Feb 2007
Realllllllly slow here on the east coast.
Dee
From: Patty (PDI) [#39]
6 Feb 2007
To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#37] 6 Feb 2007
Its official. The forum is slow on the east coast, midwest and the Great Southwest.
Patty
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#40]
6 Feb 2007
To: Patty (PDI) [#39] 6 Feb 2007
I've called tech support, who says it's something on their end.
I guess if there's any good news in this (not much) it's that we're still online. :S
From: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#41]
6 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#40] 6 Feb 2007
Didn't you watch the Super Bowl???
Don't call tech support. Call and ask for Marketing -- that's where everyone is.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#42]
6 Feb 2007
To: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#41] 6 Feb 2007
Shows you how effective the ad was. I'd forgotten all about that. :-)
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#43]
6 Feb 2007
To: jeanettebrewer (JEANETTEBREWER2) [#41] 6 Feb 2007
In the immortal words of Homer Simpson......
DOH!
From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#44]
6 Feb 2007
To: ALL
Maybe they would like a few testimonials as to their speed to use in their next ad campaign. (devil)
Dee
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#45]
6 Feb 2007
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#44] 6 Feb 2007
I'm getting very close to saying it's time to "Go Daddy."
Hoping that's not how they came up with their name.
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#46]
6 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#45] 6 Feb 2007
I've always liked Go Daddy as a registrar. This forum is my forst experience (that I know of) with them as a web host. So far I'm not impressed.
On the other hand, it's hard to find a flawless host.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#47]
6 Feb 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#46] 7 Feb 2007
Dave,
We have forum members whose hosting is through Go Daddy, who aren't having problems.
I'm losing patience, but until we can isolate the reason(s) for the extreme lag times, I won't be looking to change horses.
EDITED: 6 Feb 2007 by DGL
From: JHayes55 [#48]
6 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#47] 6 Feb 2007
So it's the forum that's slow - I thought it was my computer so I got a new high speed Laptop. :-$
I guess it's ok that the forum is slow I don't read fast anyhow. :/
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