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From: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#15]
24 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14] 24 Mar 2007
Dave, I'll give you the gold metal....I have never printed any so that has not been an issue for me.
For the glass, I use either a sublimation process where the glass is coated with a white coating making it acceptable for sublimation.
Mostly though, today, I do my glass with oem laser transfer, printed to the back of the glass and then spray painted white to seal in the toner. Still one printing process and one printer.
Question, does this mean you are using Al's white toner process?
Doug
EDITED: 24 Mar 2007 by JDOUG5170
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#16]
24 Mar 2007
To: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#15] 24 Mar 2007
Doug,
I am not using Al's process yet. These were just some samples he had sent me.
What attracts me to this process is that you only have the white behind the image itself, not the whole piece of glass as you described your process being. I guess if one had a steady hand he or she could paint only behind the image, but this adds more time to the job.
I like Al's two-printer system with the white toner. I like Mick's OEM toner transfer paper process. I like Sawgrass and Tropical Graphics' sublimation inks. I like laser sublimation toner from Alpha Supply. What I don't like is the fact that I have to have multiple systems to introduce the highest quality imprint on a variety of substartes. None of these processes are strong across the board, but they are very good in their given niche.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#17]
24 Mar 2007
To: sprinter [#10] 24 Mar 2007
{Sorry, a lot of people won't understand the above...........}
From: sprinter [#18]
24 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#17] 24 Mar 2007
Carl,
I made a fixture to put them on, perfect every time. Also, I didn't remove them after the first printer pass, so that wasn't the problem. It's the way the OKI grabs the sheets using the single sheet feeder, it can be skewed and the printer doesn't check that. Once the page is skewed the registration goes out the window, and it doesn't take much at all to affect it. The Epsons uses gravity to help align the page and does a much better job of registration.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#19]
24 Mar 2007
To: sprinter [#18] 24 Mar 2007
Do you have a 3400 or 5500? I print on my 5500 and laser cut the same sheet and I only see misregistration problems in the tens-of-thousandths. It's certainly not hundreds-of-thousandths. Is your registration worse than that?
I always align to layout lines (and sometimes cut the paper to the layouts lines) and not to the paper border.
I tend to use the MP tray more, and make sure that the rails are tight on the paper. When I run the VersaTrans paper, I do a lousy job of affixing the Sticky Notes and can see the misregistration, but it doesn't matter for my applications. Heck, I can even see the printer pull the paper in skewed even with the rails set extremely tight. I haven't taken the printer apart, but it appears that the paper sensors, and/or the pick-ups are right where I place the sticky notes.
I'm glad you can get the sticky notes to run multiple passes through the printer. Mine come off real easy after the first pass! Maybe it's the humidity here.
From: sprinter [#20]
24 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#19] 24 Mar 2007
Carl,
I have the 3400. Normally it's not a problem when it is skewed, but when I tried to match the registration to print the second time with the text on the legend plates, it was a real problem. The first couple of inches was usable, but it got worse as it printed further down the page.
The whole point is I don't see how Al's process can be done without having a white edge out of registration to the color image. If you look at his examples, you will see the white outline all over the map. I personaly don't find that to be acceptable and I'm sure my customers wouldn't either.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#21]
30 Mar 2007
To: ALL
Tomorrow's the day!
I'm putting the final touches on what I feel will be very effective examples of what can be done with sublimation, with respect to the awards industry.
In a bold move, not only will I be demonstrating epoxy doming, but the students will actually sublimate and dome their own projects. >.<
Actually, it's not very difficult, although there are some nuances, which I'll pass on to the eager attendees. :-)
Lighting isn't very good for taking photos at the moment, but after the presentation, I'll share some of the examples with you.
EDITED: 30 Mar 2007 by DGL
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