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From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#1]
 30 Jan 2007

This might not be a scam but surely reads like one. Arrived Tues. Jan 30.

Have been dreaming to earn much for so long but still didn't find a way to? We will help to make your dreams come true!
We are Patrex Ltd. Our company was established in 2000 as a logistic group specializing in the shipment of electronics of different producer. Patrex Ltd. is one of a few companies dealing with regular legal import shipment of electronic components. The company has steadily working contracts with components' producers located in South-Eastern Asia, Korea, North America and Western Europe. The company is specializing in the shipment of industrial consignment of electronics from producers (directly from the factories), express-deliveries of small consignment of components, as well as in shipment of unique components of not popular firms.
At the present moment due to increasing number of customers we need employees in the USA, Germany and Turkey. So now we need Shipment managers.
Here are the main advantages of the offered job:
- You won't have to work more than 5 hours a day.
- High salary.
- Stability and promotion opportunities.
Your duties are: Receipt of money for whole shipment from our customers on personal bank account and its remittance to our offices or subsidiaries through Western Union. Sums of money depend on customer's order and may vary from 1 component to 10 components at a time. We demand responsibility and sociability from you. You can be demanded to open an account at a bank that will be convenient for money remittance from a customer.
As you understand job is not hard, but very interesting, so if you got interested in this job, send your CV to support2@compluse.com

May your work be successful!

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#1] 30 Jan 2007


A company that wants me to set up a bank account to receive money (for them), doesn't sound like much of a company. Well...maybe bad company.

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#3]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#1] 30 Jan 2007

Sounds like either a scam (send you bad money orders, you send them your real money), or it's a money laundering business. Either way it's bad.

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#4]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#1] 30 Jan 2007

Sign me up! What a great deal! Rewarding job satisfaction! What a great company! Gooooooooo Patrex Ltd.!


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#4] 30 Jan 2007


Being able to contact "Vora S." is confidence inspiring.

PS - This post is from David L. :-)

EDITED: 30 Jan 2007 by DGL

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 30 Jan 2007

I love this blurb. Emphasis mine.

Monopoly FMCG CONSUMER PETROLEUM & COMPUTER business for small traders. Legally protected by Bombay Highcourt Order. Refill POUCH Bottle. (IMPORTED MATERIALS). Mini PUMP in every house. Available at shops.

From: UncleSteve [#7]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#6] 30 Jan 2007

I tend more to the "represent not popular companies".


From: Boz (CHEDDARHEAD) [#8]
 30 Jan 2007

They asked for my CV. Do I include the boot off the CV joint, or do I keep that and they just get the CV? I'm confused.

But I really like the 5 hours part.

Do I write to them using the same venacular: Popular guy looking of big pay job with responsibility and sociability. Have happy appearance and utteral descrepency. I-)

I'M THEiR GUY! No one else needs to apply. I can hear it now, "Thank you for calling ACCESS. WE specialize in the sales of used laser engraving machines and unique components of not popular firms. Before we start discussing your needs, please leave your personal and credit information with the automated answering system." (devil)

From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#9]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Boz (CHEDDARHEAD) [#8] 30 Jan 2007

A little off the beaten path, but maybe along the same lines....

I've gotten several submissions from our "contact us" web page from this address: baufaufru@mispir.org.

Every one of his submissions has had some sort of html reference to prescription meds.

I used to just get the normal spam from these guys, but now they're actually using my fill-in-the-blanks form to get my own website to send me spam! :/

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#10]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#9] 30 Jan 2007

And I am still amazed that people actually respond to those drug ads. They are such obvious spam.

Maybe I should offer a course in how to become an expert engraver in less than ten days.

They send me $100 and I send them a link to EE.

From: Jer (DIAMOND) [#11]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#10] 30 Jan 2007

I'll take a chunk of that $100.00. Oh wait a minute, I am not an expert. Never mind.

From: Jim (RETAIL74) [#12]
 30 Jan 2007

The 'free' yellow pages calls me everyday. I can't figure out how to get rid of them.

From: UncleSteve [#13]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Jim (RETAIL74) [#12] 30 Jan 2007

Easy! Tell them you will take the "Free" ad they are offering and then let them try to explain why they want $$$... (devil)

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#14]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#9] 31 Jan 2007

Cody, I don't know about the script you use for your contact form, but older copies of FormMail were vulnerable to being spoofed by spammers. They could send spam to a list of email addresses that they fed to the script through the form. The only drawback for the spammer was that the person who was supposed to get the contact mail also got a copy of the spam.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#14] 30 Jan 2007


What would be the cure for that, if indeed, that's what the spammers are doing?

Another script?

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#16]
 30 Jan 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#15] 30 Jan 2007

I don't know if his has the potential spam problem or not, but for ones that do, yes a different script is the answer.

The problem comes from generic scripts that pass the recipient email address from the web page. The more secure scripts have the recipient email address hard coded into them in a part of the script that can not be reached from the web. FormMail was a popular CGI script that is supplied by a lot of web hosts as a simple way to have a contact form. Similar scripts in other languages abound and work in similar ways, with similar vulnerabilities.

A custom PHP script with the address hard coded is typically the most secure. The next best thing is this PHP script that a friend of mine wrote, with a bit of advice from me, called "NateMail": http://www.mindpalette.com/formprocessing/index.php

It has a hidden list of recipient email addresses stored on the server and forms can only be sent one of the names you enter in that list. The list can not be accessed or overridden from the web.

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