Full Version: WHHHAAAAaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1]
13 Feb 2007
To: ALL
My beginners luck has run out with sublimaton! :'-(
The nasty, beastly, neigh! Dare I say, heartless and cruel COLOR CORRECTION MONSTER is after me!!!!! WHAHHHAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa! >.<
Sigh...after such good luck the reds aren't red. The golds aren't gold the light blues aren't light blues.......
BUT
My whites are whiter thanks to Clorox! B-)
EDITED: 13 Feb 2007 by C_BURKE
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2]
13 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1] 13 Feb 2007
If your reds are brick red the color correction is not being used. If they are bluish and a little light the color correction is being used twice.
Go through the installation routine for the profile, without skipping any step. Corel seems to change the installation of color profiles at times. When you set the profile stuff in Corel, close it immediately. It sometimes does not take if you do anything in Corel before closing it.
Sometimes I think that it is the type of flu going around that determines the colors.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#3]
13 Feb 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2] 14 Feb 2007
Harvey, I will email you a picture. I am getting close....but hate to keep burning up product......
Later
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4]
13 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1] 13 Feb 2007
Chuck,
You may have a color "going away."
What do your nozzle checks show?
Better yet, run a pattern of rectangles, showing each of the colors.
That will give you a better picture of what's happening than a nozzle check.
When's the last time you ran the printer?
EDITED: 13 Feb 2007 by DGL
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#5]
13 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#4] 13 Feb 2007
David,
I'll try the nozzle check, but I do not think that is it. I did another sublimation of a jpg that was created by hand with colored pencil and the colors came out PERFECTLY, along with two mugs before THAT so I don't think it is the printer.
I run the printer about once a week and have a full load of fresh ink. I think it is something I have yet to learn.
Thanks
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6]
13 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#5] 13 Feb 2007
Are you using the PowerDriver? If there are settings that you had to change, in order to use it, as Harvey suggests, recheck those settings.
Sometimes a program will inexplicably return to default settings, rendering color profiles useless.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#7]
13 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#6] 13 Feb 2007
From: GBengraver [#8]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#7] 14 Feb 2007
Chuck,
You should have Corel color management turned OFF when using Power driver for subbing.
Go to tools: Color Management and turn Color Management off (lower left corner in Corel 12.
That may be your problem.
Greg
From: jpkevin [#9]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1] 14 Feb 2007
Hi Chuck,
Don't waste product.....
I you are trying to troubleshoot colors, go to a fabric store and get some 100% white polyester fabric. You can get it for a couple dollars for a yard. Then you can cut small pieces off of it to press and test with.
If you are getting a radical color shift with a graphic, it could have been designed in CMYK. Make sure you work in RGB. Another possiblility for a radical color shift is if a sheet of sublimation was in upside down, and got printed on the wrong side. Hope this helps.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#10]
14 Feb 2007
To: jpkevin [#9] 14 Feb 2007
Kevin,
I think you may have hit it. I did not think of that. Would having the graphic created on a Mac then worked in Corel on a PC have a bearing on it?
I'll check it out.
Now if you will excuse me I must go to the fabric store....or at least dig out some of my samples I got from Johnson plastics. to play with ;-)
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#11]
14 Feb 2007
To: GBengraver [#8] 14 Feb 2007
Greg,
I think I do have color management turned off, but I will check. As someone mentioned, sometimes these things have away of turning themselves back on...
Although as I think of it I printed 4 different graphics at the same time on the same sheet of paper, only ONE is giving problems...so I don't think that is it after all.
I'll check just the same.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#11] 14 Feb 2007
That would certainly point to the image giving problems and not anything else. Your monitor color management does need to be on and corrected, but your printer color management off for Power Driver. Be dead certain it is not set to simulate printer colors - that will give horrid results on screen for sublimation.
As mentioned, work only in RGB, CMYK will require a dual conversion and miss the accuracy of color. At least if you converted to RGB you would see the difference in advance of the printing.
Something I know nothing about but have seen. You can save a picture with an embedded profile, what that does to viewing and printing someone else will have to answer. That might be a possibility.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#13]
14 Feb 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12] 14 Feb 2007
If the graphic was created using CMYK, what do I need to do to convert it RGB?
Thanks
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#14]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#13] 14 Feb 2007
Change the 'Mode' in Corel. Both Draw and Paint have this selections.
Paint - Under 'Image'.
Draw - Under 'Bitmap'.
In Draw you can also use the selection 'Bitmap/Convert to Bitmap'. That will guarantee the full conversion. I have seen some surprising things result from that.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15]
14 Feb 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#14] 14 Feb 2007
From: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#16]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15] 14 Feb 2007
Welcome to the frustrating world of Sublimation!! That's why we got out of it.
Good luck,
Dave
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#17]
14 Feb 2007
To: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#16] 14 Feb 2007
So you said the first time we met. :D ( insert laugh here)....I'm not frustrated at all. After doing sublimation for a year this is the FIRST ( seriously) time I have had to battle this issue. Pretty good I think.
From: Dave (MT_DAVE) [#18]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#17] 14 Feb 2007
Good memory!! And it's great that this is the first problem you have gotten.
Dave
From: gt350ed [#19]
14 Feb 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#11] 14 Feb 2007
If that truly is the case, it is NOT a color profile issue. It specifically has to do with that particular image, where it came from, how it was created and in what mode, etc. Focus on that.