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From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#21]
7 Mar 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#19] 7 Mar 2007
OK! I uploaded it directly into the forum. Let me know when you pick it up, it is now 8.5 Meg, (1,000 DPI).
http://engravingetc.org/Harvey/upload/04.cpt
Right click, 'Save target as...'.
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#22]
7 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#21] 7 Mar 2007
Hi Harvey ... thanks for dooing that .... now, the only question(s) is(are):
1. How do I get that do that stage with x-3?
2. After I downloaded the image, and imported it into either Corel Draw or Corel Paint, at first in the 'preview' mode I can see the image with the mask over it in Corel Paint or the whole image in Corel Draw. However, after I actually import it (using the cpt filter) I only get a empty box. What is with that?
Thanks
John
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#23]
7 Mar 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#22] 7 Mar 2007
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#24]
7 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#23] 7 Mar 2007
Carl explained it right.
Cursewords! I forgot to invert the mask, getting senile.
Open it with Paint, invert the mask and resave it. Then it will come into Draw they way you want it. (Did the tough stuff, forgot the simplest one.)
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#25]
7 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#23] 7 Mar 2007
Hi Carl ... thanks for offering your feedback to this thread ... I really appreciate your comments and I especially enjoy looking and utilizing your interesting macros you offer in Corel Draw.
When i imported Harvey's file into CorelPaint as you suggested and select all objects (masks) and then invert the mask and then save it as a cpt file then open it into Corel Draw it comes in as two objects: image and the background mask which i then ungroup and then delete the background mask and yes, it removes the background mask but unfortunately the mask still has a lot of background white space in it. I am still needing the steps to be sucessful in this process with X-3.
Thanks for your time...
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#26]
7 Mar 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#25] 7 Mar 2007
Bring the file in as it was. Go to 'Mask/Invert', (or CTRL+SHIFT+I in ver 9).
Now save it. All you want is that automatic mask. It will import into Corel as a single masked object.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#27]
7 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#24] 8 Mar 2007
Harvey,
I have looked and looked and looked under the tool bar, in options, in dockers, in masks, in effects,....and I"m sorry, I simply cannot find
invert>mask>getting senile.
Can you point me in the right direction?
Thanks
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#28]
7 Mar 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#22] 8 Mar 2007
John,
Having not seen the original graphic I cannot help, but I would suggest you contact Pradhan Balter. I am certian he will know the answer. He is very amiable to helping folks...especially those involved in ARA.
You can contact him at pradhanATretlabgraphicsDOTcom.
Mention my name if you need to.
From: UncleSteve [#29]
7 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#27] 8 Mar 2007
invert>mask>getting senile
That's because it is only in the earlier versions.... they forgot to put it in the newer versions..... (devil)
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#30]
8 Mar 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#25] 8 Mar 2007
You're welcome. I don't have X3 so I can't help you there. Is should be as simple as picking the magic wand tool and then clicking on the area that you want unmasked. You can play with the tolerance on the property bar and click again to see if you can improve the results. You can hold down CTRL and click to add to the mask or use Shift to do the opposite.
Playing with it and observing the results is your best bet. It may take a while to understand what is happening. The stuff in red will not be displayed if you save the file and then open it in CorelDraw.
Harvey's original file had what you wanted to keep in red. The background should have been in red (ie masked). If you used the original file and then selected Mask>Invert, that should have corrected the problem you were having. If you had saved Harvey's original file, that would change things. Go back and download his file again if it is available.
There are times that I just resort to manually cropping the image (ie using the paint brush to make the background white). Depending on which brush you use, you can create a feathered edge around the image that can produce some interesting results. That same or a similar result can be achieved by feathering the mask also.
Thanks for the comment about the macros. Sometimes the lack of comments, good or bad, are discouraging. But people are downloading them so maybe they are getting used. They sure do make my life easier.... well, the using them part, not the programming them part.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#31]
8 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#27] 8 Mar 2007
Chuck;
Are you running X3? It's in version 12 (see screen capture).
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#32]
8 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#31] 8 Mar 2007
Thank you Carl.
Maybe the others did not install Service Pack 1945.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#33]
8 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#32] 8 Mar 2007
;^)
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#34]
8 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#31] 8 Mar 2007
Carl,
Thank you. I guess I'll have to look in version 12. I have not used it since I got X3. Thanks for pointing that out. ;-)
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#35]
8 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#30] 8 Mar 2007
Hi Carl .... thanks for the continued feedback ... I appreciate it ... I know what you are saying about the work involved in making macros ... altho I haven't tried them in Corel I used to make a bunch of 'em for Lotus 1-2-3 projects and 'shared the wealth' so to speak with my workgroup. B-)
You ought to reward yourself with the new X-3 ... I like it a lot better then my previous 3 versions .... and I am not a 'got to have the latest' version kind of guy.
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#36]
8 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#27] 8 Mar 2007
Hi Chuck ... thanks for your response and the name of your acquaintence. The command that you referred to is in CorelPaint under 'mask' ... click that ... click 'select all' click 'invert mask' then save the file and that will do what Carl and Harvey were referring to.
Oh, in regards to part of my other question about how to remove the background I figured that one out as well in the help selection of CorelPaint
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#37]
8 Mar 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#35] 8 Mar 2007
I will.... eventually. But I no longer like being on the bleeding edge. Even more so since it has become my money that I'm spending (as opposed to corporate dollars).
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#38]
8 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#27] 8 Mar 2007
invert>mask>getting senile.
I know I saw it in there. It was right next to the menu for... oh... look at the blue sky and those pretty clouds.
Ummm... What were we talking about?
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#39]
8 Mar 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#38] 8 Mar 2007
Ummm... What were we talking about?
I don't know. Wanna ride bikes? :D
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#40]
8 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#39] 8 Mar 2007
Nothing like the feeling of swimming out and catching a big wave, only to then remember that you left the surf board on the beach.
How many times have you done that?
Hmmm, what was the thread title again?
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