Full Version: What technique would you use?

From: Vicky (ANDERI) [#1]
 28 Feb 2007
To: ALL

Hello everyone. I need your professional opinions ... yet again.

Check out this page: http://www.gravograph.com/usa/Engraving%20Products/Doorplates.php Specifically the 3" X 11" brass door plate. What would you do to get a nice, visible black mark?

I've tried diamond drag. It doesn't appear to oxydize very well. I've tried sublimation (I have a black laser sublimation cartridge). It, too, is faint, plus it's hard to get good contact in the press because the item is not perfectly flat. I tried lasering a piece of trophy brass with Cermark (test piece before trying on the real thing). I got no discernable mark at all.

Any and all ideas would be greatly appreciated! :-)


From: UncleSteve [#2]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Vicky (ANDERI) [#1] 28 Feb 2007

Paint fill... :>

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Vicky (ANDERI) [#1] 28 Feb 2007

Vicky,

I'm with Steve. Route and color-fill with black enamel.

From: UncleSteve [#4]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 28 Feb 2007

David,

Not bad for someone that couldn't even SPELL engraving 6 months ago, eh? :B

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
 28 Feb 2007
To: UncleSteve [#4] 28 Feb 2007

Steve,

Now that you can spell it, let's see some examples! :-)

From: Vicky (ANDERI) [#6]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 28 Feb 2007

LOL! Thanks, guys. Now all I need to do is figure out how to get a decent enough line (read: thick enough) to accept the paint. :P

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Vicky (ANDERI) [#6] 28 Feb 2007

Vicky,

Between your Vanguard 3400 and the pantograph, you should have all you need.

Have you used that equipment for rotary engraving?

From: Vicky (ANDERI) [#8]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7] 28 Feb 2007

I've used the Vanguard for rotary engraving, but only ever on plastic. Brass is always diamond dragged. My husband seems to think that the brass isn't solid all the way through, there's some sort of coating on top, and if we try to rotary engrave it'll destroy the top layer. The pantograph is 100% diamond drag. It has a motor for rotary engraving, I've just never used it that way. :-$

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9]
 28 Feb 2007
To: Vicky (ANDERI) [#8] 1 Mar 2007

Vicky,

With a sharp cutter, the lacquer coating shouldn't be a problem, with respect to flaking.

To color-fill an engraved image, a depth of .010 is all that's necessary. With most material being much thicker than that, the chances of engraving all the way through are slim (so to speak).

There's a bit of a knack involved with deep engraving metal and color-filling. There's also a demand. There's also a limited number of engravers who can/will do it.

Why not join the group of those who can/will? :-)

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#10]
 1 Mar 2007
To: Vicky (ANDERI) [#8] 1 Mar 2007

If it is brass, not brass coated steel, it is solid brass.

To go .010 deep on some brasses to engrave without a burr you may have to go to .005, second pass to .009, third cleanup pass to .010. You will need BAL cutters. They have the angles and clearances needed for brass. A FLX bit will not do the job. High spindle speed is also required, with a low travel speed.


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