Full Version: Equipment Raffle
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#19]
13 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#17] 13 Mar 2007
Stop already......it's a party. We are ALL eligible. You paid. You play. Your card was in. Nex time I'll get Ed McMahon or someone from publishers clearing house......... ( insert laugh here).
From: Cindy (CINDYM) [#20]
14 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12] 14 Mar 2007
I understand where you are coming from and appreciate your feelings. Only you can make the final determination if the raffle ends up happening.
If we took a vote up front about whether the moderators are eligible, I'll bet it would be resoundingly a yes, but again, only you guys can decide if you want to participate.
At least when you won the Big Sky prize in Vegas you could drive it home instead of someone having to ship it! Sounds like that prize went to just the right person.
Cindy
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#21]
14 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20] 14 Mar 2007
How many tickets would have to be sold to make it go? If it's 200, that's a lot.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#22]
14 Mar 2007
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#21] 14 Mar 2007
I don't know what the person has set as a "reserve" amount.
Probably less than 200 tickets.
I suspect people interested in this prospect would buy more than one ticket.
I only mentioned two of many items up for grabs. I don't have a full listing, but a Millennium direct printer (color name badges & small signs) is another piece of equipment.
From what I understand, all equipment has been meticulously maintained and in the case of the Xenetech machine, there will be a factory certification, as to its excellent condition.
From: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#23]
14 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#17] 14 Mar 2007
Harvey, after what you did a few years ago when you won the door prize at the ORIGINAL Beach Party...know one could doubt your ethics.
Now if Dee would just do the same with the camera......
Doug
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#24]
14 Mar 2007
To: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#23] 14 Mar 2007
Doug,
I'd sooner wrestle a rattlesnake than try and tackle Dee with that camera. ( insert laugh here)
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#25]
14 Mar 2007
To: Doug (JDOUG5170) [#23] 14 Mar 2007
Please do not hold your breath. She is still constantly reminding me about how excited she is. She now actually takes good pictures. I had gotten her a SLR through the lens camera because she was always cutting off heads. I figured that if she could see it framed she would know hat she was getting, wrong. I just gave up that she did not see the image except in her mind.
With this camera with the rear screen, all have been good so far. Just had to find the right unit I guess.
From: Cap'n Ron (RONSTROWGER) [#26]
14 Mar 2007
To: ALL
Hello All,
I really enjoy the discussion you are having on this raffle concept. I may have a few answers for you. I am the person giving away the shop full of equipment. I felt that the engraving community would really enjoy and understand the value of this equipment. I thought about using ebay, but there is no real conection there with people understanding what could be done with this.
The raffle concept is the big hurdle, legal vs not legal, no definate answer here yet. I am in research and discussion, after a good talk with David today, with my accountant. I really hope to get a positive answer so that I may complete this project. The major problem will most likely be state to state issues.
There is a minimum amount of entries required, the reserve if you will.
The money will be held until the winner is announced and has received the equipment. The account will be a double signature withdraw account in my accountants name and most likely an official from my banking institute. This bank will also be the notary public for documentation needed.
The money will also be secure and 100% refundable, at no expense to the entrants, by bond if necissary should the minimum not be met.
My accountant or banking official will be responsible for choosing the winner. I will be notified after the winner is or by the winner. I like suprises too :).
There are many details to complete this project. This is the best place to start the whole thing. I do not need this stuff and just selling it seemed somewhat boring. So why not try something different. Anyway, were well on our way to doing the extremely outrageous.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#27]
15 Mar 2007
To: Cap'n Ron (RONSTROWGER) [#26] 15 Mar 2007
We look forward to hearing what you find, as to the legal aspect.
From: Cap'n Ron (RONSTROWGER) [#28]
15 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#27] 15 Mar 2007
All,
There is a permit to file for the raffle within the state of Oregon for the ability to hold a raffle in a one year period. The real problem is the intrastate issue. Essay contests are alot easier to deal with, but some states that do not allow gambling make it manditory to allow free entries. A little unfair for this instance. Still have not had my final discussion with my accountant, but I will post as soon as I here something. Please throw ideas my way if there is something that has worked for any of you in the oranizations you may be associated with.
Thank you for your interest in this exciting venture.
From: sprinter [#29]
15 Mar 2007
To: Cap'n Ron (RONSTROWGER) [#28] 20 Mar 2007
You also have a problem with State taxes. Most states treat any winnings as income for tax purpose. And then you have Federal taxes.....
I won a car in a raffle a couple of years ago and had to prepay the taxes before I could get title to the car. I had to pay almost $12k for a 26k car.
EDITED: 15 Mar 2007 by SPRINTER
From: Jer (DIAMOND) [#30]
15 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#12] 15 Mar 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#31]
15 Mar 2007
To: Jer (DIAMOND) [#30] 15 Mar 2007
I'm hoping you're wrong, but I do have some moments of clarity. :-)
From: RICK (THUMBSUP) [#32]
17 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#31] 17 Mar 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#33]
17 Mar 2007
To: RICK (THUMBSUP) [#32] 17 Mar 2007
Forgive me for being so rude. The least I could have done is break the wood products basket up, into several door prizes.
That way, I wouldn't have had to carry 25 lbs. of wood back to my car. :-)
It was wonderful to see you and your wife at the party. 2008 promises to be the party to beat all. :-)
From: Ruben (QUIEROLEARN) [#34]
17 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#33] 17 Mar 2007
David,
are you sure it was 25 lbs.? ...I think it was a little more
(devil)
Ruben
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#35]
17 Mar 2007
To: Ruben (QUIEROLEARN) [#34] 18 Mar 2007
I forgot that you carried the box for awhile. :-)
Whatever the box weighed, it was a very generous door prize.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#36]
18 Mar 2007
To: RICK (THUMBSUP) [#32] 19 Mar 2007
Rick, you are correct.....but did you try getting that camera from Dee? I would soon swim with Pirhana. :D
From: Cap'n Ron (RONSTROWGER) [#37]
20 Mar 2007
To: sprinter [#29] 20 Mar 2007
Why does the government feel the need to re-tax what has already been taxed? All these issues sure put a kink in the fun. I am finding a ton of these issues for this raffle. It is begining to spiral out of control in all this government bureaucracy. No wonder the trade deficit and budget are in such a mess. Thank you for your reply.
EDITED: 20 Mar 2007 by DGL
From: Lisa (TROPHYUSA) [#38]
20 Mar 2007
To: ALL
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