Full Version: Simulated Plaques
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1]
13 Mar 2007
To: ALL
I have a customer who has presented laser-engraved simulated walnut plaques each year. I have never lasered the simulated plaques because of my fear of contrast issues, as well as the veneer layer pulling away from the wood if I chose to mask and paintfill.
Have any of you had success with laser engraving simulated walnut plaques, then paintfilling? If so, did you find that one particular brand of plaque worked better than another?
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#2]
13 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 13 Mar 2007
Dave,
I've used Continentals walnut veneer boards like that...no problem with the veneer peeling.
Keep in mind that I didn't do these to sell, but was just experimenting with some scrap material.
They held the gold paint (from Laserbits) well, and didn't show any problems during or after cleanup.
HTH,
Cody
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#3]
13 Mar 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#2] 13 Mar 2007
This project will require paintfilling with black. Did you use a mask, or did you simply brush in and clean up the acrylic paint from LaserBits?
If brushing in the paint, was there a problem with the pressed wood swelling from the moisture?
EDITED: 13 Mar 2007 by DATAKES
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#4]
13 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#3] 13 Mar 2007
I didn't mask it, but just smeared the paint in by hand.
The Laserbits paint is pretty thick...I didn't notice it seeping into the particle board. I didn't keep the plaque after I made it, so I didn't get to see whether there was any swelling after the first hour or so.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
13 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 13 Mar 2007
Walnut veneer would probably stand a better chance of success than vinyl-covered boards.
I tried color-filling (gold leaf enamel) vinyl-covered bords, both masked before laser engraving and unmasked. Lifted the vinyl off the board in areas of fine detail.
That could have been because of the type of paint used. <shrug>
From: Joe (SMITTY61) [#6]
13 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 13 Mar 2007
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#7]
13 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 13 Mar 2007
I have the option of not paintfilling, but have found that the pressed wood can sometimes have dark and light streaks that show up in the engraved area. This situation requires colorfill.
Masking really isn't an option with the thin areas in the particular logo I am working with. The veneer is sure to pull up when the mask is removed.
From: Toni (TONI56) [#8]
15 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 15 Mar 2007
Dave,
Joe has lasered a veneer PDU plaque that looked great. The center is MDF & it has a real walnut veneer. We stained the engraving & you could not tell it was a simulated plaque, because the outer veneer is walnut. We don't laser the traditional simulated plaques that I can think of. It's PDU product Step 'N Roll-Veneer Finish, various sizes starting with a 6x8. So it's higher than simulated but cheaper than solid walnut.
And my PDU book is falling apart! When do they send out new ones?
From: John (ICTJOHN) [#9]
17 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 17 Mar 2007
David,
I will second Cody's suggestion of using Continental's Royal Walnut simulated boards. I do these all of the time.
I use vinyl application tape and laser thru then color fill with shoe polish or Folk Art paints. I have one customer that uses 5 colors on each board. I have never had a Continental plaque ruined by the masking or the paint. The other brands of simulated plaques will lift the finish off.
hth,
~
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#10]
17 Mar 2007
To: John (ICTJOHN) [#9] 18 Mar 2007
From: deeb (DEBRIPPETOE) [#11]
18 Mar 2007
To: ALL
From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#12]
18 Mar 2007
To: Toni (TONI56) [#8] 19 Mar 2007
From: Cathy (METIME417) [#13]
18 Mar 2007
To: Toni (TONI56) [#8] 19 Mar 2007
PDU Books - I talked to the rep Friday at the show and he told me that they will be coming out later this summer because (drum roll please) they are lowering their prices and didn't have enough merchandise stocked up to fill orders, so they are going to wait to put out the catalog until they are stocked up.
Cathy
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14]
18 Mar 2007
To: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#13] 18 Mar 2007
From: UncleSteve [#15]
18 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14] 18 Mar 2007
PDU = Plastic Dress Up
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#16]
18 Mar 2007
To: UncleSteve [#15] 18 Mar 2007
From: UncleSteve [#17]
18 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#16] 18 Mar 2007
From: John (ICTJOHN) [#18]
18 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#16] 18 Mar 2007
David,
I believe they were talking about a new "Master" catalog to be sent out to replace the 2005 catalog.
:O)
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#19]
18 Mar 2007
To: John (ICTJOHN) [#18] 18 Mar 2007
John,
My brain is running a little slow today. It's obviously taking a day off. :S Duh!
From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#20]
18 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#19] 18 Mar 2007
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