Full Version: They're Baaack!

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1]
 19 Mar 2007
To: ALL

Do not bid on this item on eBay. LINK This is another one of those scams. The pictures in this auction are of a machine I sold several months ago on eBay. I posed a few questions to the seller that validated that this is a scam.

It looks like this machine is back on the scam market as well. LINK

EDITED: 19 Mar 2007 by DATAKES


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 19 Mar 2007

David,

What does ebay do about these scams?

Their site is rife with opportunity for fraud and as we're witnessing, where there's an opening for fraud, it's rapidly filled.

From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#3]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 19 Mar 2007

How can you tell it is a scam?

Dee


From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#4]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#2] 19 Mar 2007

I'm not sure what they're doing. I've never been a victim. I do know that on larger transactions there needs to be an intermediary brought into the transaction, unless they can make a physical exchange.

From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#5]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 19 Mar 2007

Dave,

I'm with Dee....what did the guy (gal) tell you that told you it was a scam?


Cody


From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#6]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY) [#3] 19 Mar 2007

Dee,

First of all it is too major of a coincidence that they are also selling a machine with the T-slot table, a diamond cutter and a .020 FLX cutter, which is exactly what I sold with mine.

The seller has zero (0) eBay transactions, as is typical with the scammers.

I asked them for the serial number, which did not match the unit I sold. It wasn't even close to being the correct number of digits. I called and asked my buyer for that number so that I could confirm the validity. By the way, he still has the machine I sold him and it is running every day.

I did report this to eBay and they said they would look into it within 24 hours. They indicated that for security reasons they would not be corresponding with me any further on the matter. So the only way to tell if they stopped the auction is if it gets pulled early.

EDITED: 19 Mar 2007 by DATAKES


From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#7]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#6] 19 Mar 2007

Excellent work, Dave!

This listing (260097117618) has been removed or is no longer available

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#8]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#7] 19 Mar 2007

I tried reporting the other link, but eBay's reporting system would not allow it. That is the same item that Glenn was burnt on a week or so ago. 45 cutters is the red flag. It's the fourth time I've seen it listed.

EDITED: 19 Mar 2007 by DATAKES


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#8] 19 Mar 2007

Ebay must have a one-fraud-per-reportee maximum. :-$

From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#10]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9] 19 Mar 2007

That is the way it felt.

On the second item a note popped up that said I had to be the successful bidder to file a report. I'm not going there. ;-)


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
 19 Mar 2007
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#10] 19 Mar 2007

Unbelievable!

But the facts don't lie. :-$

EDITED: 19 Mar 2007 by DGL


From: Boz (CHEDDARHEAD) [#12]
 20 Mar 2007
To: ALL

I also saw a ULS M 300 - M 300 laser engraver listed again. Opening bid was something like $1. I have questions in to them, but I would guess they won't have an answer. This one is out of New Jersey, if my memory serves me right.

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