Full Version: Sublimation?
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#10]
21 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#9] 21 Mar 2007
I do and I will.
How long and at what temp do you press them? What do you sell them for?
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#11]
21 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#10] 21 Mar 2007
As with the first one, plaque on the bottom, then the transfer, then 1/8" silicone pad, then teflon sheet. I probably won't need the top teflon sheet since I got a larger silicone pad. And make sure you pre-heat the silicone pad! It took me a while to figure that little tidbit out.
From the limited number of samples that I've run, press pressure seems to be a critical factor. On larger items, Mick advises to rotate the 'assembly' and repress to make sure you get a good transfer (Mick, please correct me if I misspoke).
Are customized license plates (front plates) big down there? You might try Mick's paper on license plates.
And if you haven't tried Mick's fabric paper, you might want to try that: t-shirt, mouse pads, clothing, etc. Mouse pads are fast and pretty much a no-brainer. A local t-shirt shop has tested a few shirts (100% cotton) that I provided to them and they are REAL interested for short runs, and pre-sells, and post-production runs ("Oh, I need one more of the 6-color, which takes you two-hours to set up."). The limitations on t-shirts are the shirt color and the overall transfer size. Some of the shirt color bleeds through on the lighter transfer colors and people tend to like large images (larger than 8-1/2"), although you can print multiple transfer sheets if you can find a good break in the artwork (between image and text, for example).
I've also had some successes with lacquered coated brass, but I didn't find the perfect settings before I ran out of samples. I'm leery of this application......
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12]
21 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#11] 21 Mar 2007
With my Konica/Minolta and standard lacquered silver and gold engraving aluminum I use:
340*;
2 minutes;
High pressure;
Peel when a little warm, not hot to the touch not room temperature.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#13]
21 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12] 21 Mar 2007
Do you use the silicon pad over the transfer (which is over the object)?
Do you use a cooling plate?
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#14]
21 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#13] 21 Mar 2007
Yes I do use a silicon pad. It is a necessity to allow even heating and pressure when transferring. It adds time to the pressing but eliminates those really nasty voids of color.
On Acrylic I also use an additional silicon sheet against the transfer to prevent the irregularities of the foam sheet from showing in the acrylic if the pressure is a bit too much or the time is a little too much. It is a cookie sheet. You can find some that are smooth and some with a grain. Use the smooth ones only or you will get the grain pattern in the acrylic.
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#15]
21 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#14] 21 Mar 2007
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#16]
21 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#15] 21 Mar 2007
A Teflon sheet should work, as long as it is not woven then coated. That would give it a grain that will be transferred.
The cookie sheets are usually thicker also which helps prevent irregularities from the foam to get through.
From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#17]
21 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 21 Mar 2007
WOW! Great resource.....I drive through Monroe on the way home every night!
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#18]
21 Mar 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#17] 21 Mar 2007
I met the owner, Rich Rossellini, at an L.A. area trade show. Very ambitious and knowledgeable about laser technology.
From: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19]
22 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 22 Mar 2007
David,
When you say litho printed, do you have any idea who might do that?
I have an order for 1400 mouspads and was thinking of having someone else print my transfers rather than me using my Epson 3000.
Thank you for your help.
Hope you have a nice day!
Rolf
Oh, the other question would be, would I have to use sublimation mousepads?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20]
22 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] 22 Mar 2007
I'd take that idea a step further and have an ad specialty company take the job from start to finish.
I had some done a few years ago and other than a $75 set up charge, the printed pads almost cost less than what blanks would have run.
There may be suppliers closer to you, but Golden Express, located in Oxnard, CA did a good job for me.
In answer to your original question, I used to know of a company who printed high-volume sublimation transfers, but the name escapes me.
I think Mick may know of that company, or at least another who does that type of work.
From: Mick [#21]
22 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20] 22 Mar 2007
Try either
Mountain Graphics, 801-785-6491
or
Image Products, 800-255-8791
Both are in Utah
From: gt350ed [#22]
22 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] 22 Mar 2007
In any event, we owe you either money or the plate. If we send the plate back, we'll have to charge you since the plate is now a "collectible". (devil)
We've opted to send you money plus interest. Expect it very soon.
From: gt350ed [#23]
22 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#22] 22 Mar 2007
From: gt350ed [#24]
22 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#4] 22 Mar 2007
I'm assuming paper for a laser printer, but I could not find any specific mention in the thread pertaining to what YOU achieved with your "round TUIT".
Thanks, Carl
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#25]
22 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#24] 22 Mar 2007
Color Laser printer. OEM Laser transfer. Hard goods paper. VersaTrans paper.
There's also a VersaTrans Fabric paper for fabric.
From: gt350ed [#26]
22 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#25] 22 Mar 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#27]
22 Mar 2007
To: Mick [#21] 22 Mar 2007
Image Products was the company I was thinking of.
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#28]
22 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] 22 Mar 2007
Pricing should be around 1.69 to 2.15 each with a $125 setup charge at that quantity, depending on if it's 1/8, or 1/4" thick.
If you're looking for more formal pricing or samples.....let me know.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#29]
25 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] Unread
Rolf,
I use DigiSpec for my bulk mousepad printing. They use a variety of imprinting methods and offer superior service.
The pricing on their website is on a price code 4rs.
http://www.digispec.com/index.php
EDITED: 25 Mar 2007 by DATAKES
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