Full Version: Sublimation?
From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#17]
21 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 21 Mar 2007
WOW! Great resource.....I drive through Monroe on the way home every night!
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#18]
21 Mar 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#17] 21 Mar 2007
I met the owner, Rich Rossellini, at an L.A. area trade show. Very ambitious and knowledgeable about laser technology.
From: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19]
22 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#3] 22 Mar 2007
David,
When you say litho printed, do you have any idea who might do that?
I have an order for 1400 mouspads and was thinking of having someone else print my transfers rather than me using my Epson 3000.
Thank you for your help.
Hope you have a nice day!
Rolf
Oh, the other question would be, would I have to use sublimation mousepads?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20]
22 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] 22 Mar 2007
I'd take that idea a step further and have an ad specialty company take the job from start to finish.
I had some done a few years ago and other than a $75 set up charge, the printed pads almost cost less than what blanks would have run.
There may be suppliers closer to you, but Golden Express, located in Oxnard, CA did a good job for me.
In answer to your original question, I used to know of a company who printed high-volume sublimation transfers, but the name escapes me.
I think Mick may know of that company, or at least another who does that type of work.
From: Mick [#21]
22 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20] 22 Mar 2007
Try either
Mountain Graphics, 801-785-6491
or
Image Products, 800-255-8791
Both are in Utah
From: gt350ed [#22]
22 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] 22 Mar 2007
In any event, we owe you either money or the plate. If we send the plate back, we'll have to charge you since the plate is now a "collectible". (devil)
We've opted to send you money plus interest. Expect it very soon.
From: gt350ed [#23]
22 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#22] 22 Mar 2007
From: gt350ed [#24]
22 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#4] 22 Mar 2007
I'm assuming paper for a laser printer, but I could not find any specific mention in the thread pertaining to what YOU achieved with your "round TUIT".
Thanks, Carl
From: Carl (CSEWELL) [#25]
22 Mar 2007
To: gt350ed [#24] 22 Mar 2007
Color Laser printer. OEM Laser transfer. Hard goods paper. VersaTrans paper.
There's also a VersaTrans Fabric paper for fabric.
From: gt350ed [#26]
22 Mar 2007
To: Carl (CSEWELL) [#25] 22 Mar 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#27]
22 Mar 2007
To: Mick [#21] 22 Mar 2007
Image Products was the company I was thinking of.
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#28]
22 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] 22 Mar 2007
Pricing should be around 1.69 to 2.15 each with a $125 setup charge at that quantity, depending on if it's 1/8, or 1/4" thick.
If you're looking for more formal pricing or samples.....let me know.
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#29]
25 Mar 2007
To: Rolf (RJB2108) [#19] Unread
Rolf,
I use DigiSpec for my bulk mousepad printing. They use a variety of imprinting methods and offer superior service.
The pricing on their website is on a price code 4rs.
http://www.digispec.com/index.php
EDITED: 25 Mar 2007 by DATAKES
From: Don (HIGHDESERT) [#30]
25 Mar 2007
To: ALL
To All,
Great posts. Has cleared up much confusion for me about Laser Transfers.
Now some questions, please... I need to purchase my first Heat Press, Can y'all tell me what your are using and/or what you would recommend? As well as what size?
Also, I have a Konica/Minolta 2430 Laser Color Printer, Is this O.K.?, If not, what printer do you recommend? I will be using Mick's Transfer Papers.
Thanks,
Don
High Desert Engraving Co.
EDITED: 25 Mar 2007 by HIGHDESERT
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#31]
25 Mar 2007
To: Don (HIGHDESERT) [#30] 25 Mar 2007
Don,
I only have experience with the GeoKnight DS20 swing away press, so I cannot offer any opinions on others.
While the GeorKnight has had some controversy over wiring and placement of the handle used to close the press, I have had nothing but great results with it.
When I got my press, I purchased the shuttle base accessory, which would allow me to be pressing while I load the next batch......
Anyway, that's all I got.....but I am quite pleased with it and when the time comes for another press, I'll get another one.
Hope this helps.....
From: Don (HIGHDESERT) [#32]
25 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#31] 25 Mar 2007
Hello Chuck,
It seems that the Heat Press you have is very popular. I am jumping into the water for the first time and I'm just not sure how much demand I can create in my small town. I'm a little concerned about spending $1,200.00 (+or- ) to see what happens.
Although the DK20S Heat Press is a really nice Press, have you found that you need the full 16"x20" size? Or would a smaller unit suffice to get me started? Also, what would you think would be the smallest size I could start with and not be sorry in a short time?
Once again I want to thank you. I always enjoy reading your posts, and you have been a great help to me.
Don
High Desert Engraving Co.
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#33]
25 Mar 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#31] 25 Mar 2007
Don .... (sorry about that Chuck) (devil)
I'm with Chuck (well, not actually ... but with his opinion of heat presses :-)).
In regards to which is the best printer, I would recommend, as I beleive others on this forum have recommended in the past to first choose your paper supplier, in this case Mick, and ask his recommendation(s). I had bought an OKI 5200ne, but I didn't have satisfactory results in the substrates I was using so gave up on it for now.
Mick has done a great job researching his product(s) and will give you the support you need to make some good choices.
Good Luck!
EDITED: 25 Mar 2007 by JOHNRMONTG
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#34]
25 Mar 2007
To: Don (HIGHDESERT) [#32] 25 Mar 2007
Hi Don,
For what I am doing yes, I need the full 16 x 20 size. Mostly I am printing tile murals, and I can fit four 6" tiles on the bed of the press. ( while I load the other side of the shuttle).
I am sure you could get by with a smaller press to start, however let me share with you *my* theory of buying a little more tool ( as budget allows of course) than you need and grow into it. Were you to get a smaller press then find you need a larger one, you would now have to buy another press, ending up spending the $1200.00 you didn't want to spend in the first place....but this is just *my* opinion about what works for me. It is a preference.....
Before you take the leap, do your market research...ask you exisiting customers if they would be interested in the products you would produce....ask any associates as well. If you wanted, I could make you some samples of things you might want or like to market in your area, and you could use those to do your market research.
I would best leave that question to folks with more experience than myself......
You are most welcome. Thank you for your kind words.
EDITED: 25 Mar 2007 by C_BURKE
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#35]
25 Mar 2007
To: Don (HIGHDESERT) [#32] 25 Mar 2007
I would suggest a 15x15, as the smallest platen size you would want to use.
Why?
Because not all of that area is useable. The edges of a press (for logical reason) tend to be cooler than the center.
Small format printers, using legal size paper (8.5x14), are capable of making transfers with a printable area of approx. 8"x13".
That fact, takes a press with a 12" platen (for the reason I mentioned) out of the running.
A 15" press still allows for a consistent transfer of heat over the entire 12-13" area of a substrate.
EDITED: 25 Mar 2007 by DGL
From: Don (HIGHDESERT) [#36]
25 Mar 2007
To: ALL
Wow!! You guys are awesome!!
First of all John,
Thanks for the response. I have been in touch with Mick and he has answered some questions for me. However, he didn't comment on my current Konica/Minolta Printer. I will phone him tommorrow and ask him again. I'm disapointed to hear that you have had un-satisfactory results with you Oki 5200 Printer. Do you have any ideas as to why?
Chuck,
Your offer is incredibly generous. I would be happy to accept it. But please, let me pay you (wholesale I hope). Just Put together whatever you feel would be a good sample kit and let me know what I owe you including shipping and how to pay you. Do you have a Paypal Account? I will send you a PM with my address. Since John mentioned unsatisfactory results with the substrates he has tried using his Oki 5300 Printer, May I ask you which Printer you are using? And which transfers you are using?
David,
Once again you have helped to re-assure me. I have always tried to follow the "Chuck Rule" Buy top of the line, and overkill.... But after the purchase of my new Epilog Laser Engraver and Rayzist Blasting Cabinet, as well as looking like I will end up purchasing a new Vision Phoenix 12x12 Engraver, I am just about out of money. A 15"x15" Platen size is about half the cost of what the 16"x20" is. I'm sure I can cash in some pop bottles to buy one.
When I mentioned "The Chuck Rule" above, I meant it as a compliment to Chuck.
Again, I really wish to thank all of you for your help. It is appreciated.
Don
High Desert Engraving Co.
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