Full Version: Laser Exhaust Systems
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#10]
27 Mar 2007
To: RICK (THUMBSUP) [#1] 27 Mar 2007
Rick,
My completed work is stored on a designated shelf area in my back room. On occasion, I do display items in the show room, but very selectively.
I personally do not want to risk damage to finished products. It could be something as simple as a minor scratch that would require me to redo a gift or award.
By displaying items in the showroom you are also breaching the confidentiality of the names that have been placed in your care, therefore potentially spoiling a customer's presentation.
If you have extra room to display completed products in your showroom, you need to purchase more samples or inventory to fill those areas.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
27 Mar 2007
To: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#9] 27 Mar 2007
From: Hermes (HERMESSANDOVAL) [#12]
28 Mar 2007
To: RICK (THUMBSUP) [#1] 28 Mar 2007
I've always used PVC pipes, the kind you would use for water drain installations, they're easy to work with and unexpensive, they're quite Ok after five years of passing noxious fumes and standing in the blistering sun. I have the exhaust blower installed inside, it's a noise and vibration reduction installation with springs and a rubber bed. The three exahust blowers are in room of their own along with the air compressor.
As for the showroom, i actually don't have as much space for that as i wish i had, so i store all the finished work in a large table inside the production area, but i do believe it would be a good idea to display it to anyone tha comes by.
I hope this information is useful to you.
From: Cindy (CINDYM) [#13]
29 Mar 2007
To: RICK (THUMBSUP) [#1] 29 Mar 2007
We could never put our completed orders in our showroom! Horrors!
There is too much conflicting traffic where the cat would be out of the bag for surprise awards - I can see it now where the bank president comes in to pick up his order for his bank and sees a plaque that is going to be presented to him from the chamber!
We are known for our CIA approach - we divulge nothing that has to do with our other clients. Our clients know that when they give us info it doesn't go elsewhere and is available for viewing after it is presented only.
This may differ from other opinions, but I feel that your showroom is a place to display what you can do, not what you currently have sold. Plus, finished orders clutter up the crisp, clean look of a showroom.
We put all our finished orders in our office, on a wall shelf unit. The paperwork goes in to an accordian file. The shelf has numbers on it, the paperwork has that number on it. You pull the paperwork, go to the shelf and presto - there's the order.
Cindy Murdoch, CRS
Cascade Engraving & Awards, LLC
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#14]
29 Mar 2007
To: Cindy (CINDYM) [#13] 29 Mar 2007
Remember that this comes from a mall perspective.
I used to have a crisp clean extremely business look. Everything in categories and totally visible and neat. Does not work well in a mall.
I used to tell my wife that I would never have the displays cluttered like one of our friends has. Her sales were far above ours. Wifey kept buying different picture frames till we ran out of space, they are a good seller.
The more cluttered the area got, the more sales picked up on those products. Other areas are getting intentionally cluttered.
From: Cindy (CINDYM) [#15]
29 Mar 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#14] 29 Mar 2007
Having lots of product to select from, attractively arranged and kept clean and dusted is a far cry from boxes of finished product cluttering the walkways or shelves.
I started out in this industry working for a guy that had the theory that having finished product in the showroom showed his clients how busy he was. From a salesperson stand point, I hated it because I kept trying to show clients product, and would trip over boxes as I was trying to get close to the wall to pick up a product and hand it to the client. He wrapped the products in newspaper so they wouldn't bump as they were transported, so you saw boxes all over with crumpled newspaper sticking out of the tops of the boxes.
I'll bet your showroom doesn't not match this 'clutter' I'm referring to.
Cindy
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#16]
29 Mar 2007
To: Cindy (CINDYM) [#15] Unread
Your post made me shudder.
No the show area is neat in that respect, just too many products per shelf.
That seems to be the key.
From: Nick (NICKIONPOE) [#17]
3 Apr 2007
To: Hermes (HERMESSANDOVAL) [#12] 5 Apr 2007
Hermes,
You mentioned a noise reduction device for the exhaust. I would appreciate tips on the construction of this. Recently the exhaust noise has become an issue for us due to a relocation.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#18]
3 Apr 2007
To: Nick (NICKIONPOE) [#17] 3 Apr 2007
What we used to do in recording studios for the air conditioning ducts was to build a box with twice the square area of the duct. Looking from the top of the box was the opening to the duct in the lower section...
I'll attach a picture.
The top, bottom, and walls were covered with fiberglass. It muffles all but very high and very low frequencies.
From: UncleSteve [#19]
3 Apr 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#18] 4 Apr 2007
The baffle system you show is very similar to that used in many auto mufflers..... and all us "guys" have had a car we ran with the muffler removed... until the neighbors and local constable got on our case.. >.<
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#20]
4 Apr 2007
To: UncleSteve [#19] 4 Apr 2007
From: UncleSteve [#21]
4 Apr 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#20] 4 Apr 2007
From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#22]
4 Apr 2007
To: Nick (NICKIONPOE) [#17] 4 Apr 2007
From: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#23]
4 Apr 2007
To: ALL
OOOOoooo we are having BIG issues with exhaust noise now that the weather is getting warmer and neighbors are opening doors/windows. I'm so concerned of the 747 impression we're producing here!
I can't wait to read more tips/tricks on this thread! Keep them coming!!
From: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#24]
4 Apr 2007
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#20] 4 Apr 2007
So Harvey - can you use a 4" car muffler for this application?
Pardon me...I'm just a girl! :)
From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#25]
4 Apr 2007
To: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#24] 4 Apr 2007
I think you willl have to try a Diesel Truck surpressor for a 4" pipe.
How much CFP are you pulling ??
From: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#26]
4 Apr 2007
To: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#25] 4 Apr 2007
From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#27]
4 Apr 2007
To: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#26] 4 Apr 2007
1100 CFM....... How far is the laser from the vent outlet..........
Just 1 laser or is there more hooked up??
I'm running just under 300 cfm and I can push 15-20 feet with no problem
From: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#28]
4 Apr 2007
To: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#27] 4 Apr 2007
Right now, the laser is only 6 feet away from both the blower and exhaust hole.
My current set up has the motor at ankle level on the floor with it venting directly via a dedicated hole outside. (this setup is in a garage.)
We want to change the config so that the vent hole will be farther from the laser - approx. a 30 foot run - thru 4" PVC. We also want to vent it out thru the roof making it push 30 feet and up thru the roof.
Do you know if it will be quieter if I use this setup or would you recommend some sort of muffler?
From: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#29]
4 Apr 2007
To: Holly (GRIZGIRLS) [#28] 4 Apr 2007
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