Full Version: Is this true?
From: Laser Image (LASER_IMAGE) [#20]
2 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#19] 2 Apr 2007
and the problem with most of those customer service centers is that the escalator, or elevator, doesn't reach the top floor...
ifyaknowhatImean
From: Mike (MIKEN) [#21]
2 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#20] 2 Apr 2007
I have been using the do not call list for quite a long time now for all my phones and it works quite well. I can't attest to the effectiveness with my cell, which is my primary business phone, but it's rare when I get calls or even the annoying faxes I used to get.
From: GBengraver [#22]
2 Apr 2007
To: UncleSteve [#10] 2 Apr 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#23]
2 Apr 2007
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#21] 2 Apr 2007
Thanks for that uplifting news. :-)
From: Laser Image (LASER_IMAGE) [#24]
2 Apr 2007
To: GBengraver [#22] 2 Apr 2007
From: UncleSteve [#25]
2 Apr 2007
To: GBengraver [#22] 2 Apr 2007
:-)
EDITED: 2 Apr 2007 by UNCLESTEVE
From: GBengraver [#26]
2 Apr 2007
To: UncleSteve [#25] 3 Apr 2007
You guys should take some of your own advise before you continue spreading lies.
He never said he "invented" the internet.
Check out what he said here:
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
It amazes me how people hear something thru some grapevine and take it as gospel without confirming.
That "don't let the facts get in the way" of a good character assasination attitude.
Just because the present administration does it continually does not make it acceptable.
G
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From: UncleSteve [#28]
3 Apr 2007
To: GBengraver [#26] 3 Apr 2007
To quote YOUR source, "I took the initiative to create the internet"
Close enough for most people! Invent or create... pick some nits if you want to.
Want a glass of Kool-Aid?
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#29]
3 Apr 2007
To: ALL
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#30]
3 Apr 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#29] 3 Apr 2007
Looks like your deletion worked after all. Basically, even with the tangent it took, the posts were on topic. :-)
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#31]
3 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#30] 3 Apr 2007
It worked, but not at the right time.
Unfortunately, my fingers started typing before the my brain kicked in. I actually clicked "Cancel", but the reply was posted anyway.
I care nothing about stirring a political debate, nor bringing to surface the emotions that many folks can't/won't hold in.
From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#32]
3 Apr 2007
To: GBengraver [#26] 3 Apr 2007
does not reflect that notion? I particularly like Vint Cerf's defense of Gore's statement by saying that "...he makes it a point to be well-informed."
:'D
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#33]
3 Apr 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#29] 3 Apr 2007
I like that. Yep. I like it. B-)
From: GBengraver [#34]
3 Apr 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#32] 3 Apr 2007
If this is not helping to create the internet, I don't know what is.
My big gripe is not what you think of Gore, Bush or anyone else.
It is the spreading of lies without checking fact.
G
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#35]
3 Apr 2007
To: GBengraver [#34] 3 Apr 2007
Grrrr....I wasn't going to get into this thread, was I???
LOL
This past December, our local City Council voted to pave an old oil-top road with concrete, which will give some residents a better drive to and from their houses (a few blocks from my house). Construction began a couple of weeks ago.
Here's my question: Did the Councilman that (or any of the Council) actually PAVE the road?
What was it that the Council did? I'm looking for the VERB.
So....using the same logic, did Algore CREATE the Internet? Other than writing / co-sponsoring a piece of legislation, did he take any active part in the CREATION of it?
It's semantics, I know. But this is one of the most famous of Algore's slips....still not as funny as a lot of Bush-isms. B-)
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#36]
3 Apr 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#35] 3 Apr 2007
If a specific city councilman in your town wrote and submitted a proposal for a new local ordinance that would create a new baseball field for local kids out of an old piece of property already owned by the city, and the city council approved it and funded it, would you not give that specific councilman credit for being the one who initiated the creation of that park?
Without the first law mentioned that Gore sponsored the "internet" would have remained a closed network exclusively for military contractors and researchers. Without the second law that he cosponsored the "internet" as we know it today would not exist.
Yes, he did more that sponsor those laws. He went all over the country talking to the people that were using networks, and to people that would ultimately benifit from the network and he pushed the concept of a unified national network harder than any other public figure.
No he did not invent the internet, and never claimed to. He does deserve more credit than any other single person for helping to make the internet happen. The geeks that wrote the code that physically made it work didn't create the internet. Not the internet we know today. The internet is far beyond the wires that connect it and the software that makes it work. It was laws that turned a government run private network over to public non profit organizations and gave them funding and a direction to go.
From: Funkmeister (FUNKY) [#37]
3 Apr 2007
To: Laser Image (LASER_IMAGE) [#20] 3 Apr 2007
No more calls as of last night.
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#38]
3 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#36] 3 Apr 2007
I see your point, and I can respect it.
However, I am an absolutist (sort of :P), and I believe that words have meaning.
For example, the action verb "to pave" means just that. The correct verbs for the Council would be "to vote", "to discuss", "to brainstorm", etc.
I drive by that project every day. I've never seen the Council out there with tools and equipment. In fact, I'd bet that most members of our Council could not carry on a conversation with most of the people DOING the work. Newsflash: Mexicans are paving the street.....not the government.
Yep. But look at the words you used. "Initiated the creation", not "created".
Words have meaning.
From: GBengraver [#39]
3 Apr 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#35] 3 Apr 2007
What you are describing is not the same thing.
Was this road paving a new process that will change the way the world drives on roads?
The internet has revolutionized the way the world communicates and relays information.
That is a lot different than a town council voting to repave a road.
G.
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