Full Version: Is this true?
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#51]
4 Apr 2007
To: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#44] 5 Apr 2007
I started designing high speed electronic circuits in the early 70s. In 1976 I started writing computer programs for DEC PDP-11 computers. In the early 80s I was designing computers. Not buying a motherboard and picking a graphics card. I was designing CPUs out of discrete logic chips. In 1982 I was building high speed computers at the high energy physics lab at the Cornell Synchrotron, and used Ethernet to network a half dozen of the computers I had built. At the same time I was using ARPANET and several other networks that nobody has ever heard of to comunicate with CERN labs in Switzerland. (another high energy particle lab) We sent emails and files across those networks every day (when they worked), sharing the designs and software for the computers I was building, which they were also building copies of.
Through much of the 80s I was using USENET, a loose network of schools and individuals. What are now known as "newsgroups". In the mid to late 80s I was a regular user of BIX and several other bulletin board systems. I started using Compuserve in the mid 80s, eventually becoming a moderator on a number of their forums, including the graphics forum where the GIF image format was created.
My first browser was Mosaic, a year before Netscape existed, and 2 years before Internet Explorer. But that was already two years after Gore's legislation linked ARPANET and several other networks and opened them up to the public. (and funded development of Mosaic)
I tell you all this, not to beat my own chest, but to make it clear I am not reading about all of this in history web pages. I was there. I had nothing to do with creating the internet, but I was along for the ride from a fairly early point, and saw it evolve.
But I'm going to give up trying to get you to believe the truth. You have already decided that your hate for Gore is more important that the truth. So I'll leave it at that. I don't particularly like Gore as a person, but I am not going to deny the work he did.
EDITED: 4 Apr 2007 by DAVERJ
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#52]
4 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#51] 4 Apr 2007
From: GBengraver [#53]
4 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#51] 5 Apr 2007
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#54]
4 Apr 2007
To: GBengraver [#53] 5 Apr 2007
Indeed! I'm the first to admit that my opinion of his character makes me see his actions and words in a skewed fashion....like looking through a prism. There are many things that I can be very objective on, even when I have a strong opinion on the subject. Is Algore one of them? Probably not. Just have to be honest about that.
Brian and I don't seem to agree politically, but I'm in lock-step with him here. I think we need to spread the word that Dave created the Internet. From what he's said, he really is part of the REAL group that got our networking & Internet structures where they are today.
I don't know what any of that stuff was that Dave was talking about, but it sure sounded impressive!
EDITED: 4 Apr 2007 by BOBTNAILER
From: Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) [#55]
5 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#51] 5 Apr 2007
In the book there's almost a full chapter about a rather handsome guy by the name of James Docherty (...I'm guessing his wife thinks so.) In his not-so-spare time, he ran a very large new media company, the division of an even larger media conglomerate. There's a few interesting citations about his role as a pioneer in web-based content that began with the launch of CompuServe, an ongoing and very public feud with John Kennedy Jr., and (if I recall correctly) even his primary role in standardizing the commercialization of the Web including advertising and early commerce. In fact, this guy and his company was arguably the single largest source of commercial content on the Internet.
They tapped him from the magazine publishing business because he was already a pretty old hand....having started with simple programming on an IBM 1410 in 1971 and like you, on USENET in the 80's. Not surprisingly, James was on the front page of the Wall Street Journal in the 90's not once, but twice because of his (at the time) revolutionary profitability. Can you imagine, people actually paid this guy to fly around the World, speaking to groups and corporations about making money on this newfangled Internet thing?!?
He eventually went back to the magazine business, his first love, before retiring.
Yeah, I was there too....but I don't recall seeing you. And for what it's worth, I don't hate Al Gore or anyone else for that matter. But I can read.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#56]
5 Apr 2007
To: ALL
Is this true?
Webster Tarpley wrote this on a widely circulated article out of Russia Mar. 26
The long awaited US military attack on Iran is now on track for the first week of April, specifically for 4 AM on April 6, the Good Friday opening of Easter weekend, writes the well-known Russian journalist Andrei Uglanov in the Moscow weekly "Argumenty Nedeli." Uglanov cites Russian military experts close to the Russian General Staff for his account.
The attack is slated to last for twelve hours, according to Uglanov, lasting from 4 AM until 4 PM local time. Friday is a holiday in Iran. In the course of the attack, code named Operation Bite, about 20 targets are marked for bombing; the list includes uranium enrichment facilities, research centers, and laboratories.
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If so, depending on whose local time the article refers to, we'll know within a few hours.
EDITED: 5 Apr 2007 by DGL
From: UncleSteve [#57]
5 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#56] 5 Apr 2007
Keep in mind two things.....
First, that was written while Iran still held the British sailors....
Second, If the Russians were that smart, they would have won the cold war....
We should know by daybreak if he is right. Is that April 6th Iran time or US time?
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#58]
5 Apr 2007
To: UncleSteve [#57] 5 Apr 2007
I'm hoping the report is entirely wrong.
Quite literally, time will tell.
From: UncleSteve [#59]
5 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#58] 5 Apr 2007
Nostradamus this guy ain't!!! :/
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#60]
5 Apr 2007
To: UncleSteve [#59] 5 Apr 2007
From: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) [#61]
6 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#60] 6 Apr 2007
From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#62]
6 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#56] 6 Apr 2007
From: UncleSteve [#63]
6 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#62] 6 Apr 2007
He was wrong back then, also!! :/
From: Mick [#64]
6 Apr 2007
To: UncleSteve [#10] 6 Apr 2007
Steve,
You were the first to mention dear Al invented the internet on this thread. After much research, here is how it actually happened.
In ancient Israel, it came to pass that a trader by the name of Abraham Com did take unto himself a young wife by the name of Dot. And Dot Com was a comely woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg. Indeed, she had been called Amazon Dot Com.
She said unto Abraham, her husband, "Why doth thou travel far from town to town with thy goods when thou can trade without ever leaving thy tent?"
And Abraham did look at her as though she were several saddle bags short of a camel load, but simply said, "How, Dear?" And Dot replied, "I will place drums in all the towns and drums in between to send messages saying what you have for sale and they will reply telling you which hath the best price.
And the sale can be made on the drums and delivery made by Uriah's Pony Stable (UPS)."
Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with the drums. The drums rang out and were an immediate success. Abraham sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever moving from his tent.
But this success did arouse envy. A man named Maccabia did secret himself inside Abraham's drum and was accused of insider trading.
And the young man did take to Dot Com's trading as doth the greedy horsefly take to horse flesh.
and, before very long, there were many others and They were called Nomadic Ecclesiastical Rich Dominican Siderites, or NERDS for short.
And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the deafening sound of drums,
that no one noticed that the real riches were going to the drum maker, one Brother William of Gates, who bought up every drum company in the land. And indeed did insist on making drums that would work only with Brother Gates' drumheads and drumsticks.
Dot did say, "Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over by others." And as Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel,
(or as it came to be known "eBay" )
he said, "we need a name that reflects what we are," and Dot replied, "Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators." "YAHOO", said Abraham. And that is how it all began, It wasn't Al Gore after all.
From: UncleSteve [#65]
6 Apr 2007
To: Mick [#64] 6 Apr 2007
THANK YOU! I absolutly love it! A great laugh to start the day!
B-)
From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#66]
6 Apr 2007
To: Mick [#64] 6 Apr 2007
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#67]
6 Apr 2007
To: Mick [#64] 6 Apr 2007
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