Full Version: First black marble with photo

From: Mike (SPACE_ENGRAVERS) [#8]
 31 Mar 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#7] 31 Mar 2007

Larry,
Couple of more questions and I'll leave you alone.

1. You mentioned getting an upgraded disk...what version of photograv do you have? mine is 2.11 (I think)

2. What power and speed settings did you use for your photo? Do you use the setting on the "info" page in photograv?

Thanks,

Mike


From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9]
 31 Mar 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#5] 31 Mar 2007

Larry,

Thank you for taking my critique in stride. I hate to criticize a person's work, but typography is an area where sometimes less is more.

I'm sure you'll refine your layout skills. Practice makes perfect.

The engraving results, especially for a first time out, are excellent!!

Very nice.

From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#10]
 31 Mar 2007
To: Mike (SPACE_ENGRAVERS) [#8] 31 Mar 2007

I have 2.11 also. They did send me another disc, but we had trouble with the original install. My laptop didn't like the disc, although all of the other computers here liked it OK. I finally ended up having to run the setup file from my hard drive where I had copied it using a removable jump drive from one of the other machines. But it works OK.

You know, I think I just used the settings that were in the Epilog manual for power and speed. I did use the autoprocess feature in Photograv though. But I did kinda run it in two parts as I explained. Ran the photo at 300dpi then the text at 600. I put that Armorall on there and that worked to make it whiter too.


From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#11]
 31 Mar 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9] 31 Mar 2007

Oh, I agree. I constantly have to guard against laying out too much information on signs especially. I think they say that a person has about 6 seconds to read a sign from a moving vehicle. The preportions are important too. I asked for a critique, did I not? :/

From: MIKEY (JADEPUTTERS) [#12]
 31 Mar 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#1] 1 Apr 2007

Larry,

As for the grain on his nose, I find a good ol #2 lead pencil is good for shading some of those spots. Just a light touch. It works on granite anyway

From: Goodvol (JIMGOOD) [#13]
 31 Mar 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#11] 1 Apr 2007

Larry,

Was his daughter's name really Gennifer? Should it have been "Jennifer" or is it a case of a unique spelling of a common name?

Jim


From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#14]
 1 Apr 2007
To: Goodvol (JIMGOOD) [#13] 1 Apr 2007

Yep Gennifer with a G. Thanks for looking

From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#15]
 1 Apr 2007
To: MIKEY (JADEPUTTERS) [#12] Unread

OK, I've still got it here until tomorrow. I look at the pencil trick. My first thought is that it would be too dark. Thanks for the tip.

From: Mike (MIKEN) [#16]
 1 Apr 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#15] 1 Apr 2007

Larry:

My compliments on the quality of your engraving.

I agree with David's remarks. One of the things newer people seem to do is to fill up the entire substrate when in fact the work would look better if there were an imaginary border or margin around the engraving.

I would have probably used a font like Times New Roman for the copy at the bottom as well.

But you're off to a great start.

From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#17]
 1 Apr 2007
To: Mike (MIKEN) [#16] 1 Apr 2007

Mike, thanks for the critique.

New? 8-O I may be other things but one thing I ain't is new(at least not in years). Sixty two years old in July. Been doing graphics and computer work for nigh on to 25 years now. Yes, laser is totally new to me, but not CNC sign work or rotary engraving. I had a lot of information to get in a small space, didn't have a huge choice. Font change might have helped though, Commercial Script is a dignified looking font to me, I use it a good bit.

EDITED: 1 Apr 2007 by PALMETTO


From: Mike (MIKEN) [#18]
 1 Apr 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#17] 2 Apr 2007

Larry:

You're just a kid.

I like Commercial Script too, merely suggesting using more than one font.

From: William Desrochers (DRAKESIS) [#19]
 2 Apr 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#1] 2 Apr 2007

quote:
first attempt at lasering a photo onto black marble


I think you nailed it, nice job!

From: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#20]
 2 Apr 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#1] 2 Apr 2007

VERY impressive!!

Now pat yourself on the back, and take a big bow!!


From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#21]
 2 Apr 2007
To: Cody (BOBTNAILER) [#20] 2 Apr 2007

Palmetto (Larry) bows! Reaching around trying to pat himself on the back but wife says I look stupid! (but what else is new?) :B

Thanks again for the help!


From: Mikey (MIKE2449) [#22]
 2 Apr 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#1] 2 Apr 2007

Larry:
From one new guy to another--nice job! In my short experience what I have found is that removing the white space around the head makes the image jump out at you. Take the bezier tool in draw, outline your photo with many nodes. It takes a lot less time than one might think. Completely encircle that area that would be white space, click on black color in the color palate, and bingo, the photo when sent to photograve will eliminate that white area.
One thing I learned here earlier is that once you have photograved the image, never adjust the size, not even a little or you will not get those same results you did this time.
Again, really nice. For those of you who need parameters for black marble/granite--Jim at lasersketch will send them via email for the asking, he has them for wood and glass as well.
Mike


From: Mike (MDUFFY) [#23]
 2 Apr 2007
To: ALL

Larry,
It looks real good. I just started working with marble for the first time this past weekend. What's the ArmorAll trick, I haven't heard of it. Is there a certain product or technique?

Thank you.


From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#24]
 2 Apr 2007
To: Mikey (MIKE2449) [#22] 2 Apr 2007

Yep, your probably right about that. I considered it after the fact. I'll get rid of it on the next one and see how it looks. However, the guy in the photo had on a dark suit, and I figured it might not have shown up as well if I had dropped the white background out of it. Thanks for the tip though.

From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#25]
 2 Apr 2007
To: Mike (MDUFFY) [#23] 3 Apr 2007

Mike, just spray some Armorall on it and wipe it off before you laser it, and the white comes out a good bit whiter. Don't know the chemistry, but I read the tip in this forum or maybe in Sawmill Creek. I asked Joe Pelonio about it before I did it, and he said it worked..soo..the rest is history. Good luck. (By the way, I ran two of these, one with and one without and I could tell a good bit of difference).
Good luck with yours!


From: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#26]
 2 Apr 2007
To: MIKEY (JADEPUTTERS) [#12] Unread

;-) Worked like a charm!! Thanks Mikey!!

From: Mike (MDUFFY) [#27]
 3 Apr 2007
To: Larry B (PALMETTO) [#25] 3 Apr 2007

Thanks for the Armorall tip. I'll give it a try.

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