Full Version: Dye-Sub-Magenta hue on my coffee mugs!

From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#1]
 4 Apr 2007
To: ALL

HELP!

I am making coffee mugs with several logos on them. The problem I am having is, the first batch had little black freckles all over the place. So I changed the black ink.

The black freckles went away but each logo has a magenta hue around it..almost like a spray. Some logos are just black, some are 4 color and it's doing it to all of them. The magenta ink is reading 17%. I have run it fine with less than that in there.

I have not run my printer in several weeks, maybe even months. Could that have something to do with it? I have an Epson C88. Does something need to be cleaned possibly?
Needless to say, I have a customer waiting for mugs 8-O
Thanks in advance for any help
Becky

From: John (JOHNDT) [#2]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#1] 4 Apr 2007

Becky,

I think I've experienced this problem and corrected it with a shorter press time. Hope this helps.

John


From: JHayes55 [#3]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#1] 4 Apr 2007

In your epson tools you should be able to run a print check - to see if you need to run a clean. Once you clean you will need to test using the print check. It prints each of you colors out in a square to see if lines are showing up. Also may need to check the alignment.
I still run an old epson 3000 so I do not know all the details of the new models - but I am sure someone here may correct me on the steps if I am wrong.

I finally did get the info you had requested from me - I can PM you what I know (which is not much)


From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#4]
 4 Apr 2007
To: JHayes55 [#3] 4 Apr 2007

quote:
I finally did get the info you had requested from me - I can PM you what I know (which is not much)


Hook me up man!! ;-)
Thanks Joe
Becky

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#1] 4 Apr 2007

Becky,

Have you ever done a "physical" head cleaning of your printheads?

New Ink?

Performed an alignment test?

From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#6]
 4 Apr 2007
To: John (JOHNDT) [#2] Unread

John-
My transfers aren't even making it onto the mug...the hue is visible on the paper prior to pressing...

I'm thinking maybe my magenta has dried out and it is sputtering ink in a vain effort to print...
Thanks for your help
Becky

From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#7]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 4 Apr 2007

quote:
Have you ever done a "physical" head cleaning of your printheads?

huh? :B
quote:
New Ink?

That I have done..

quote:
Performed an alignment test?

which is what? LOL

In answer to your questions David, I have not done much in the way of maintaining it other than change the ink....mostly because I didn't think I needed to and didn't know what needed to be done...

Now, you would think someone who has spent as much time as I do on this forum would not have slept through class on this one >.<

I guess it's one of those things you don't worry about until you have to and apparently now I have to.
B

From: JHayes55 [#8]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#7] 4 Apr 2007

You have a PM

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#7] 4 Apr 2007

Becky,

I was asking about new ink, because sometimes ink formulations are changed without notice.

The colors may be the same, but the traits of the ink can change, i.e. not being compatible with some types of transfer paper or possible viscosity issues making some printer models less compatible with the ink, which may cause a magenta glow around letters and graphics.

From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#10]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9] 4 Apr 2007

David-
I'm not EVEN going into detail about the mess I have made in here.

But I think I have determined the cause of the problem to be dried ink.
It didn't slosh around in the cartridge when I shook it....

Unlike the over half full cyan cartridge.. >.<

Probably not a great idea to shake the ink cartridge huh? :B

I'm really really hoping Steve and Chuck skip this thread.... :O)

Is it Friday yet?

Becky

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#10] 4 Apr 2007

Becky,

Low ink levels can be the cause of what you're describing. Air bubbles can also cause ink to sputter, creating an overspray effect.

From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12]
 4 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#10] 4 Apr 2007

If you let the cartridge sit for a day after shaking it, (do not use that first day), any bubbles that were caused will rise to the top and there will be no problem.

It sounds like bad ink because it happened after black spots then a change of black ink. When black ink settles it can change color. I have seen the ink for the 3000 turn green. The 3000 gets the bottom ink last, a cartridge gets the bottom first. If it settled the green would be on the top and the black will look reddish.

Do a nozzle check first. See if every line is there and not broken. Then print out the squares, look around the black square to see if there is any stray black dots from side spit. Special way to clean for that. Different models use a different method of physical cleaning, I am only familiar with the 3000 and the C88.

Sub ink is an ink with particles that can build up at the jets unlike the standard ink. Let us know the results.

EDITED: 4 Apr 2007 by HARVEY-ONLY


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From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#14]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#10] 5 Apr 2007

quote:
Probably not a great idea to shake the ink cartridge huh? :B


Sometimes that is the solution.


Good luck.

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