Full Version: Dye-Sub Am I understanding this right?

From: gt350ed [#17]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#4] 5 Apr 2007

I use a Epson 1280. Although they ARE getting harder to find new, the 1280 has a lot to offer. It will take 11" x 19" paper and, as you have surmised, it prints in 6 ink colors.

Once I switched to spongeless refillable carts, my clogging issues dramatically became a thing of the past. And learning how to do physical head cleanings using distilled water has contributed greatly to trouble-free printing.

If money is no problem, either the Epson 4000 or 4800 might be the way to go. On the otherhand, the 1280 can be had for $400 or less. I cannot tell you how many times mine has paid for itself; at least 50 times. Do the math.

From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#18]
 5 Apr 2007
To: gt350ed [#17] 5 Apr 2007

Ed-
Well, believe it or not, I managed to score a new 1280 on clearance at Staples for $100. Tonight actually. LOL
So, on inksupply dot com, what am I buying to go spongeless and refillable for this thing? They look like they have refill kits but they don't seem expensive enough ( like $45?)

Since that is what you have, can you tell me what you buy?

Thanks for helping me get up to speed.
Becky

From: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#19]
 5 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#14] 5 Apr 2007

Chuck,
Thanks for your opinion about the 4000. I really appreciate it.

Based on your opinion, I think I will probably take the leap down the road. Which may be not that far down the road.

I am going to give this 1280 a whirl and see if it gets me through this wave and then I will take a look at the 4000 a lot closer.

Thank you so much,
I really appreciate it
Becky

From: Mike (MIKEN) [#20]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#19] 5 Apr 2007

Becky
You've been given good advice about buying the MIS refillable cartridges.

I would buy TOG inks simply because David says they're OK and a lot cheaper than the others.

I can tell you that your 1280 will work fine if you use it. Even if you're just printing something to exercise the printer.

If you don't do that (like I didn't) you may take up swearing which I did.

From: gt350ed [#21]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#18] 5 Apr 2007

From MIS Associates, order two of each:

SLC-T007-EC
SLC-T009-EC

These are the empty black and color carts.

Also, order the chip resetter. I don't have the part number. It's somewhere on their website, along with their phone number.

I never ordered the refill "kit". You may want to. I don't believe you need it.

Other than syringes, you'll be good to go.

From: gt350ed [#22]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#18] 5 Apr 2007

MIS Associates' phone number is 1-248-391-2163. I believe they are in Michigan.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#23]
 5 Apr 2007
To: gt350ed [#16] 6 Apr 2007

Ed,

Thanks for the update. I haven't used the spongeless, refillable carts, although I've seen them in action.

No bad reports from the people I know who use them.

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From: PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY) [#25]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#24] 5 Apr 2007

Are we still talking about sublimation ink ???


2 oz $86 75ml per color
4 oz $140 125 ml
8 oz $240 250ml
16 oz $406 500ml

EDITED: 5 Apr 2007 by PENINSULATROPHY

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#26]
 5 Apr 2007
To: Becky (KIAIJANE) [#19] 5 Apr 2007

Becky,

At last weekend's Coast Graphic Supply Learning Center, I found that even though the Epson 4000 is being replaced by the 4800, there are aspects of the 4000 that make it more desireable than a 4800.

Has to do with some of the desireable functionality of the 4000 that has been eliminated in the 4800.

From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#27]
 6 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#26] 6 Apr 2007

Hi David .... have you seen any of the new advertisements for the system that features the 4800? It is using a system that effectively makes a 4800 a 'dual use' printer in the fact that you put both sub inks and conventional inks in them (at the same time). Altho it doesn't work like the 4000 with the double 4 ink setup it is one that will make it even more versatile.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#28]
 6 Apr 2007
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#27] 6 Apr 2007

John,

Yes, I've seen where the 4800 can be used for dye sub and other cartridges are brought into play for printing transparencies for film positives, used in the silkscreen process, as one example.

I've also seen where Sawgrass uses that printer model for their Chromablast system, where dye sub is one function and another ink formulation is used for printing 100% cotton garments etc.

From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#29]
 6 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#28] 6 Apr 2007

Hi David ... yes, the latter is the system I saw ... quite interesting isn't it? Don't know if a 4800 can be converted to it or not tho...

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#30]
 6 Apr 2007
To: jpkevin [#29] 6 Apr 2007

Kevin,

Is the Epson 4800 the printer model used in the Sawgrass Chromablast method?

Thank you,

From: jpkevin [#31]
 6 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#30] 6 Apr 2007

Hi David,

Yes, the 4800 is the model that is the dual system. It uses two drivers....one is the Powerdriver for the sublimation side, and the other is the Chromablast driver to use that side. The only thing you have to manually change is the paper. It is a really cool option to allow you to do both technologies with one machine.

The 4000 is not set up to do this.

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#32]
 6 Apr 2007
To: jpkevin [#31] 8 Apr 2007

Thank you Kevin.

I've never used a 4800, but I try to pay attention to what's happening with the latest equipment. :-)

Have a good weekend.

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