Full Version: Corporate Binders

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1] 19 Apr 2007

Chuck,

How about vinyl graphics for the cover?

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#8]
 19 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#7] 19 Apr 2007

quote:
How about vinyl graphics for the cover?


Dave, thanks..

The challenge is they want it on the spline.....but maybe I can explore that......I'd like to figure this out...this is one of those "niche" markets everyone keeps talking about....and there are LOTS of CPA's on the island.

thanks

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#8] 19 Apr 2007

Vinyl is very flexible and if the adhesion is good, I think it would work.

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#10]
 19 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#9] 19 Apr 2007

How am I going to cut it? I'd have to have a sign company do it....

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#10] 19 Apr 2007

Exactly!

A sign shop should be able to provide you with the pre-weeded vinyl, on application paper.

Create a hinge with a piece of masking tape, remove the protective backing, squeegie onto the binder and remove the top masking.

So easy, even I can do it and I have. :-)

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#12]
 19 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#11] 19 Apr 2007

Ok. Now I just need to find a source for the binders......

From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#13]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#12] 19 Apr 2007

Chuck,

My reading comprehension is shot. I thought you already had the binders.

From: Bill (ALBILLBERT2000) [#14]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#12] 19 Apr 2007

Hey Chuck.. first call me in the morning. at 215-887-8982 in addition to Engraving signs and rubber stamps.. were an office supply store.. we use a couple of companies for doing the corporate seal kits... to give you an example.. not only do you need the binder.. but you need the corporate min pages.. the assignment sheets for stocks.. need to be able to print stocks ... comon or par value.. have them numbered etc... one company in Sterling out of canada.. the does the entire thing for cheap.. cheap.... did I say cheap.. you call them.. and less than a week.. its in.. another is Carolina marking systems.. and I am sure there are others... We make corporate seals using our laser and mech engraver.. but for the entire package.. it is simpler to farm it out.. unless this lawyer is very big.. and giving you more than a few a month.. I would send it out.. if you would like to talk more.. call me

 

or use flex brass.. from romark

EDITED: 20 Apr 2007 by ALBILLBERT2000


From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15]
 19 Apr 2007
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#13] 19 Apr 2007

No. That would be toooooo easy....

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#16]
 19 Apr 2007
To: Bill (ALBILLBERT2000) [#14] 19 Apr 2007

Thank you Bill, I will be calling you.........I can make the seals here as well.

It's a CPA...he does not need the paper, he fills the binder himself.....price will be a factor....and out in the middle of the ocean, well, it gets expensive......because of freight...

BUT, who know. I'll be calling you tomorrow. Thanks for the help


From: Bill (ALBILLBERT2000) [#17]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#16] 19 Apr 2007

Then if that is the case look into a pad printer or a used hot stamping machine

or cut gold foil using your laser for a decal.. I have even seen some companies just use View binders sold at any office supply house.. and put in a decorative ivory or fancy paper printed from a computer printer..

and yes view binders come with the binding side having a slip in opening


From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#18]
 19 Apr 2007
To: Bill (ALBILLBERT2000) [#17] 19 Apr 2007

quote:
Then if that is the case look into a pad printer or a used hot stamping machine


The hot stamp won't work because of the rings... possibly a pad printer, but I know nothing about pad printing.......

I'll talk to you in the morning.....any particular time better than another?

From: Bill (ALBILLBERT2000) [#19]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#18] 19 Apr 2007

I am on the east coast.. I get in about 8 ish.. but anytime is good..

From: JHayes55 [#20]
 19 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#18] 20 Apr 2007

quote:
How am I going to cut it? I'd have to have a sign company do it....


Dude - use laser foil instead of vinyl - that way you can do it in house on demand. Laser foil is just polyester instead of vinyl.

From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#21]
 20 Apr 2007
To: JHayes55 [#20] 20 Apr 2007

quote:
Laser foil is just polyester instead of vinyl.


Laser foil needs to be applied FIRST correct? I will have to find binders that have a smooth surface......

Thanks Joe

From: JHayes55 [#22]
 20 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#21] 20 Apr 2007

You should test vinyl or the foil on the binders to make sure you have a surface that they will adhere to well.
If I were doing it with foil I would place it on my multi-mat then cut, weed away the part I do not need, put transfer paper over the letters, turn it over take away the backer to expose the adhesive back, stick on the binder, squeegee down - peel off transfer paper.

TA-DA.

If you do not have a muti-mat use cardboard & some masking tape to hold down the edges of your foil - having the cardboard allows you to take it out of the laser to put the transfer paper on - Got It???

Order multi-mat from Jeanette.


From: sprinter [#23]
 20 Apr 2007
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#1] 20 Apr 2007

I don't want to rain on your parade of using vinyl or foil, but by the time you do all the weeding, etc the labor alone is going to make them very expensive. Out sourcing even with shipping would be cheaper.

From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#24]
 20 Apr 2007
To: sprinter [#23] 20 Apr 2007

Shipping to Hawaii is insanely expensive. The cheapest UPS service for a 2 pound box about the size of a thick 3 ring binder would be around $45-$50 and take a week from the east coast. 2-day shipping would be something like $55-$60.

From: sprinter [#25]
 20 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#24] 20 Apr 2007

OUCH!!

From: UncleSteve [#26]
 20 Apr 2007
To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ) [#24] 20 Apr 2007

Take a look at the flat rate Priority Mail boxes from good old USPS.....

Last I heard, HI was still considered a state.... At least we don't need a passport yet. :-&

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