Hi David
I use 'dead' drag tools with the motor on. Especially when doing coated brass or Anodised Aluminium Pet Tags, The rotation stops the chipping effect you spoke about, and because the tool is blunt, it doesn't cut as deep as a true rotary diamond, and I find that I get a better mark on stainless than just dragging alone.
I have been advised against using non rotating Diamonds in this way as they can shatter, and apart from the danger of scratching a job, I seem to have an endless supply of blunt ones, and I have never had one shatter...yet.

John

John,

I have a friend who subscribes to "spinning" the diamond. It does create an unusual effect.

I'll have to experiment with that technique.

Thanks for the tip :-)

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

We use diamond burnishers on a daily basis and would not be without them. I use them on aluminum, brass, acrylic, glass - all kinds of materials.
I noticed that I needed a new .005 diamond burnisher, and was excited to buy and receive a new one. I forgot that new diamond burnishers are not so great on acrylics, and burnished a logo with the new burnisher that had the logo turn out looking extremely mushed. I hated to toss the piece I ruined, but used the old, dull, diamond on the new piece and it looked excellent when completed.
I, too, will be keeping a stock of the old on hand, and will use them on acrylic definitely rather than my new burnishers from now on.
Cindy

On acrylic it may pay to turn down the spindle speed to reduce the heat produced.

Also when burnishing acrylic, a coolant will help a lot.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

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Cindy,

It's funny. Sometimes, when I'm engraving for Nordstrom, I'll have to engrave a stainless steel watch back. Occasionally, the customers are watching.

I'll tell the customer that I'm going to change to a "Special" cutter.

What I don't tell them is, I don't want to decrease the lifespan of my newer cutters and I'm using a "dead" cutter.

Still get great results on the watch backs. :-)

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

Hi,
I didn't realize you could use diamond burnishers on acrylic.
Do you mean sheet stock or acrylic award pieces (3/4")?
Thanks.

I use faceted diamonds a lot to mark stainless steel. I have been looking around for someone to relap these as they do dull quite quickly because of the material.

I have found one company who can do this for me. The price quoted is about 40% of the cost of a new diamond.

In your experience will relapping a diamond be just as good as a new one? Any ideas on how many times these can be relapped.

Thanks in advance for any advice

Andrew

I think Bruce Diamond does relaps.

The only problem with relapping is if it is a big bit like .040. It may not have enough diamond to relap. Just tell them, in advance, to relap to the largest possible size, or maybe .030 if it gets too small.

I used to use Mitchell Tool, a resharpening service that also sold Bruce Diamond bits. He is out of business for a few years, unfortunately.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

Thanks Harvey

I am in the UK and have so far only found one company who may be able to help. I will give them a go with one of my 'deads' to see. it will be a good saving over the course of a year if it works for me.

Judging by your profile, you're one of the younger hand engravers. :-)

Thank you for the input.

Is there a web site, or photos, where we can see examples of your work?

David, Being a hand engraver myself I went to his profile immediately for the same reason you did. I was one of the youngest in N.J. except for one fellow I taught and he ended up at the US Mint.
I am going on 69 years young.
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Dave, Yes we lived one town apart and that is who had the laminator. we were competitors but they were mostly in the awards business and I was mostly in jewelry and silver awards.
I engraved for 22 years by hand and so did Doug.
Small world.
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Dave, I haven,t seen them in 30 years. It wasn,t a happy ending for them. That is a long story.
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John, I must agree with you, I run a bussiness in Bendigo Australia, & have found its gives me a better result spinning a blunt diamond cutter at about half the normal speed gives you a great result on, anadised aluminium, stainless steel, s/s mugs & drinking flasks, even sterling silver bracelets the engraving dosn't wear off & the engraving stands out, just dont make a mistake its harder to buff off! I've just registered on this sight, a mate of mine Baz told me about it! I'm heading off next week to the States & I'll be at the ARA from the 20th Feb.
Seeya there Glenn (Fordy)

Glenn,

I've recently become a proponent of spinning the diamond gravers.

Haven't tried it on everything, but find it works wonders on coated items, like some coated writing pens. It also makes a better cut for oxidizing trophy brass.

I'm happy Baz told you about our forum. We're getting quite a few Aussies on board. Some are threatening to band together and come to next year's ARA Las Vegas show. :-)

If you're in the mood to meet and party with some of the people of this forum, while in Vegas, take a moment to check out this thread:

http://engravingetc.org/forum/index.php?webtag=EE&msg=5261.1

A lot of posts there. After reading the first post, you may want to fast forward to the 200+ post, to see where we stand.

Almost forgot - Welcome to Engraving Etc!