Out of Alignment - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	Zonas	5 Jul 2006
To:	Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)	8 of 14

3689.8 In reply to 3689.1

I wish I had my camera in the shop today to post a picture. A person brought in a wine bottle that "Things Remembered" had engraved. The name was first middle last. They didn't put any spaces between the names and the font was so small I couldn't even read it, without a magnifying glass. And they still charged him $35.00 for the engraving. He also had them engrave one wine glass to go with the bottle and told them 2 times he wanted gold filled writing. Kept asking them to write it down...they assured him they'd get it right. Nope he got it natural ... and then they told him they don't do gold fill on wine glasses. I did another wine bottle for him, and colored filled the wine glass. Needless to say he asked for several business cards to pass out and tell his friends about his experience. I just love this type of advertising (devil)

Zona

From:	Myyk	5 Jul 2006
To:	Zonas	9 of 14

3689.9 In reply to 3689.8
Somewhat off topic. What do you use to gold fill glass? I assume you would have to sandblast to get deep enough for the fill to get a good key. If you use a paint fill, does it stay in for any length of time and will it discolour with wine or washing? I guess it would not be dish washer proof.

From:	Zonas	5 Jul 2006
To:	Myyk	10 of 14

3689.10 In reply to 3689.9

I have a cylindrical engraver and use a diamond (I only use diamonds from Bruce Diamond) cutter. Use rub n buff for gold and silver (metal colors) glass paints (Hobby Lobby, etc.) for other colors. Engrave a little deeper for the paints vs the rub n buff. I've been dishwashing a couple of coffee cups with rub n buff since 1996. (Microwaved also) with no problems.

Zona

From:	Myyk	5 Jul 2006
To:	Zonas	11 of 14

3689.11 In reply to 3689.10
Thanks Zona, I have a cylindrical engraver as well (Vision Max) but not set up for glass. Prefer to laser or blast. I will give the fills a try! Always had grave doubts about longevity.

From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	5 Jul 2006
To:	Zonas	12 of 14

3689.12 In reply to 3689.10
One thing noteworthy about Run-N-Buf, paint thinner is a nearly instant solvent. Good for mistakes or for the bit far enough outside the letters that refuses to come off. Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem) When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

From:	Zonas	6 Jul 2006
To:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	14 of 14

3689.14 In reply to 3689.12

Don't laugh but I have found one of the best ways to remove the excessive rub 'n buff without removing from the engraving is .............. a hot breath. (doesn't work after eating ice cream ;-) ) Just 'huff' on the item and polish. (I always wash my items before packing so I don't have to worry about spreading germs. ) I've tried some thinners, WD, etc. but it will also remove from the engraving and takes more work to clean the glass for packing. My two cents.

Zona