Corporate Binders - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	9 of 33

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Vinyl is very flexible and if the adhesion is good, I think it would work. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	11 of 33

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Exactly! A sign shop should be able to provide you with the pre-weeded vinyl, on application paper. Create a hinge with a piece of masking tape, remove the protective backing, squeegie onto the binder and remove the top masking. So easy, even I can do it and I have. :-) David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	13 of 33

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Chuck, My reading comprehension is shot. I thought you already had the binders. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Bill (ALBILLBERT2000)	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	14 of 33

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Hey Chuck.. first call me in the morning. at 215-887-8982 in addition to Engraving signs and rubber stamps.. were an office supply store.. we use a couple of companies for doing the corporate seal kits... to give you an example.. not only do you need the binder.. but you need the corporate min pages.. the assignment sheets for stocks.. need to be able to print stocks ... comon or par value.. have them numbered etc... one company in Sterling out of canada.. the does the entire thing for cheap.. cheap.... did I say cheap.. you call them.. and less than a week.. its in.. another is Carolina marking systems.. and I am sure there are others... We make corporate seals using our laser and mech engraver.. but for the entire package.. it is simpler to farm it out.. unless this lawyer is very big.. and giving you more than a few a month.. I would send it out.. if you would like to talk more.. call me

or use flex brass.. from romark

Bill Hibbert
Hibbert's Engraving, Signs, Banners, Rubber Stamps
Glenside, PA
215-887-8982

EDITED: 20 Apr 2007 by ALBILLBERT2000

From:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	19 Apr 2007
To:	Bill (ALBILLBERT2000)	16 of 33

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Thank you Bill, I will be calling you.........I can make the seals here as well.

It's a CPA...he does not need the paper, he fills the binder himself.....price will be a factor....and out in the middle of the ocean, well, it gets expensive......because of freight...

BUT, who know. I'll be calling you tomorrow. Thanks for the help

From:	Bill (ALBILLBERT2000)	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	17 of 33

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Then if that is the case look into a pad printer or a used hot stamping machine

or cut gold foil using your laser for a decal.. I have even seen some companies just use View binders sold at any office supply house.. and put in a decorative ivory or fancy paper printed from a computer printer..

and yes view binders come with the binding side having a slip in opening

Bill Hibbert
Hibbert's Engraving, Signs, Banners, Rubber Stamps
Glenside, PA
215-887-8982

From:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	19 Apr 2007
To:	Bill (ALBILLBERT2000)	18 of 33

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quote: Then if that is the case look into a pad printer or a used hot stamping machine The hot stamp won't work because of the rings... possibly a pad printer, but I know nothing about pad printing....... I'll talk to you in the morning.....any particular time better than another?

From:	Bill (ALBILLBERT2000)	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	19 of 33

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I am on the east coast.. I get in about 8 ish.. but anytime is good.. Bill Hibbert Hibbert's Engraving, Signs, Banners, Rubber Stamps Glenside, PA 215-887-8982

From:	JHayes55	19 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	20 of 33

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quote: How am I going to cut it? I'd have to have a sign company do it.... Dude - use laser foil instead of vinyl - that way you can do it in house on demand. Laser foil is just polyester instead of vinyl.

From:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	20 Apr 2007
To:	JHayes55	21 of 33

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quote: Laser foil is just polyester instead of vinyl. Laser foil needs to be applied FIRST correct? I will have to find binders that have a smooth surface...... Thanks Joe

From:	JHayes55	20 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	22 of 33

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You should test vinyl or the foil on the binders to make sure you have a surface that they will adhere to well.
If I were doing it with foil I would place it on my multi-mat then cut, weed away the part I do not need, put transfer paper over the letters, turn it over take away the backer to expose the adhesive back, stick on the binder, squeegee down - peel off transfer paper.

TA-DA.

If you do not have a muti-mat use cardboard & some masking tape to hold down the edges of your foil - having the cardboard allows you to take it out of the laser to put the transfer paper on - Got It???

Order multi-mat from Jeanette.

Joe

From:	sprinter	20 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	23 of 33

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I don't want to rain on your parade of using vinyl or foil, but by the time you do all the weeding, etc the labor alone is going to make them very expensive. Out sourcing even with shipping would be cheaper.

From:	Dave Jones (DAVERJ)	20 Apr 2007
To:	sprinter	24 of 33

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Shipping to Hawaii is insanely expensive. The cheapest UPS service for a 2 pound box about the size of a thick 3 ring binder would be around $45-$50 and take a week from the east coast. 2-day shipping would be something like $55-$60. ...Dave Dave Jones Design

From:	UncleSteve	20 Apr 2007
To:	Dave Jones (DAVERJ)	26 of 33

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Take a look at the flat rate Priority Mail boxes from good old USPS..... Last I heard, HI was still considered a state.... At least we don't need a passport yet. :-& "Good friends can be a real annoyance."

From:	Ruben (QUIEROLEARN)	20 Apr 2007
To:	LaZerDude (C_BURKE)	28 of 33

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Chuck,

how about sublimatable Mates or Mylar? it can be cut in the laser, Johnson Plastics sales this stuff

Ruben