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 From:  PenMan
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3405.1 
I recently bought a sand blaster and am using my laser to make the masks. The sandblaster manufacturer told me to try 75% power and 95% speed with my 25 watt laser. It did not raster thru the mask and I wonder if it is better to increase the power or decrease the speed to get a complete cut?

Pen Man (aka Chris Tegard)
Treasured Creations

 

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 From:  John (ICTJOHN)
 To:  PenMan 
3405.2 In reply to 3405.1 

Chris,

It really doesn't matter other than for the time it will take to engrave;

so give it enough power to get a complete raster of the image at the fastest speed without engraving into the glass.

Test it at several settings.

My settings are going to be different than yours and yours may be different than someone else with the same brand of machine because of many factors, like:

Laser tube condition,
condition of motion assembly (clean, dirty, worn)
the material you are engraving,
altitude,
weather conditions (humidity),
machine settings (dpi, lpi, etc)
condition of artwork (if applicable, B&W vs greyscale vs poor quality)
...

 

hth,

 

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 From:  Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)
 To:  PenMan 
3405.3 In reply to 3405.1 

Chris,

I have a 30-watt laser and use Specialty Industries laser mask. My settings for completely burning away laser mask on glass, crystal and marble is 600 dpi, 35% speed and 95% power. This assures me that all of the mask and adhesive will be removed in one pass for blasting.

While we are on the subject, I've discovered something interesting using this process over the years. While lasering optical crystal through this mask material with the above settings I get a very high quality, non-grainy etch, even before I hit it with the blaster. I continue to hit all of my crystal with the sandblaster, but on occasion, I've been tempted to remove the mask and consider it done. The mask material must lessen or eliminate the fracturing effect that often happens with direct-to-crystal lasering.

EDITED: 3 Apr 2006 by DATAKES


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 From:  PenMan
 To:  Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) 
3405.4 In reply to 3405.3 

Who are Specialty Industries? Do you have contact info?

Thanks,

Pen Man (aka Chris Tegard)
Treasured Creations

 

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 From:  JimK (JUSTTHE4OFUS)
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3405.5 In reply to 3405.1 

OK, its "Show My Ignorance" time!

I still haven't use my sandblaster however I had assumed that you would only vector cut the mask and weed the parts to be blasted. Is there an advantage to rastering the blast area?

If there is a lot of very fine detail I can see the raster would be better and faster, but if its a large area it would seem weeding to be faster.

Guess I better get going on this, so much to learn, so little time. I'm still waiting for the contractor to finish my interior shop walls so I can hook everything up and get blasting.

Jim

Jim Kenndy, Sr.
Just the 4 of Us Engraving
York, Maine

ULS 25W with rotary attachment, MPX-60 impact printer, CrystalBlast 3624 system with Letralite, 60 gal compressor, NH IS400 Volume with extended cylindrical capacity, Kingsley hot stamp foil press, 32" Master Vinyl Plotter, and too few hours in a day!

"If we can't do it, it can't be done." - slogan courtesy of Stunt-Engraver.

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  JimK (JUSTTHE4OFUS) 
3405.6 In reply to 3405.5 
Jim,

Some of the masking material can be very stubborn to remove from the substrate (from what I hear).

With that in mind, I would think you'd be better off rastering the blasting area and not risk damaging part of the mask during the weeding process.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  JimK (JUSTTHE4OFUS)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3405.7 In reply to 3405.6 

David,

Tres cool! I learned something. I guess that's what its all about. Good info!

Jim

Jim Kenndy, Sr.
Just the 4 of Us Engraving
York, Maine

ULS 25W with rotary attachment, MPX-60 impact printer, CrystalBlast 3624 system with Letralite, 60 gal compressor, NH IS400 Volume with extended cylindrical capacity, Kingsley hot stamp foil press, 32" Master Vinyl Plotter, and too few hours in a day!

"If we can't do it, it can't be done." - slogan courtesy of Stunt-Engraver.

 

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 From:  Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)
 To:  PenMan 
3405.8 In reply to 3405.4 

Chris,

I meant to say Specialty Tapes. I have a customer named Specialty Industries. Duh! Here is their info.

www.specialtytapes.net
800-545-8273

The stock item I use is a 6" x 25 Yd. roll. It is called Lazer's Edge, and is item CW-5764-625. $25 per roll if you buy onesies.

EDITED: 5 Apr 2006 by DATAKES


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 From:  Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)
 To:  JimK (JUSTTHE4OFUS) 
3405.9 In reply to 3405.7 

Jim,

When you vector the material, you will also create an outline that will end up being deeper than the rest of the blast. I would not recommend vectoring, but it can be done.

Another factor you need to take into account the amount of time you would spend weeding your image.


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 From:  PenMan
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3405.10 
Thanks for the information everyone. Hopefully, I'll be able to answer some questions about sandblasting sometime instead of just asking them. My first attempt was worthless because I used the laser settings that Rayzist recommended and it did not raster through the mask completely. I blasted and it didn't do anything. At least I didn't ruin the glass. I have a better idea what to look for now. One more question (yeah, right). What do you use to cover the rest of the glass that is not being blasted to protect it from accidentally getting scratched by stray sand?

Pen Man (aka Chris Tegard)
Treasured Creations

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  PenMan 
3405.11 In reply to 3405.10 

Chris,

I've seen duct tape and sometimes masking tape used in areas where etching isn't desired.

I suppose the thickness of the covering would depend on how hard you're going at it, with regard to nozzle pressure and the depth you're trying to achieve.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 6 Apr 2006 by DGL

 

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 From:  PenMan
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3405.12 In reply to 3405.11 
Thanks David. I wasn't sure if masking tape, even multiple thicknesses, could take the punishment but I've finally got everything set up and am going to try some blasting today.

Pen Man (aka Chris Tegard)
Treasured Creations

 
 
     
 

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