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 From:  GBengraver
 To:  ALL
3411.1 

I'm in the market for a new mug press and would like somefeed back on whats out there.

In particular if any of you have the Nova Chrome mug press pro, what you think of it.

I did read the reviews on presses at the DSSI site but they are 3 years old and would like some updated opinions on them.

Are there any issues that make it a less desirable press compared to the Hix M-550?

Those two presses are at the top of my list.

Are there any new presses on the market I should consider?

Thanks in advance.

Greg

"Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else."
 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  GBengraver 
3411.2 In reply to 3411.1 
Greg,

I think the Novachrome Mug Pro has undergone minor changes, shortly after Larry Cohn wrote his article. I believe the heating element was shortened in height a bit.

Other than that, the Mug Pro is still a highly-rated machine.

If you're looking for full, top-to-bottom coverage, because of heating element height and the often-inconsistent geometry of mugs, it's a dicey proposition with any mug press. Mug wraps are a better choice for full coverage.

I'm not aware of any new advancements in mug press technology, except for something Mick (Cactus Equipment) mentioned, when I saw him in Las Vegas.

Still in the testing stages, it sounds like a press, with the advantages of a mug wrap. Reportedly, no need for adjustments between 11 oz. and 15 oz. mugs.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Zonas
 To:  GBengraver 
3411.3 In reply to 3411.1 

I have the Mug Press Pro. My only complaint has been 'service'. As soon as I took it out of the box and plugged it in I couldn't get a 400 degree reading when set at 400. Called 'service' and their reply was just keep upping the setting until you get 400 (even though instructions say never set higher than 400). I have to keep mine set at 445 to get 400 degrees. I know what I'm doing, but it sure makes in confusing if anybody else uses it and knows - 3 1/2 mins at 400 degrees.

Zona
Zona's Engraved Creations

 

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 From:  John (ICTJOHN)
 To:  Zonas 
3411.4 In reply to 3411.3 

Zona,

Is there a way you can move the legend plate to align with the correct dial setting?? or is it a digital setting??


I have the ORG3 and it uses a dial.

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  John (ICTJOHN) 
3411.5 In reply to 3411.4 

John,

I'm not Zona and she's grateful. :-) 

The new Mug Pro has a digital readout. The previous model(s) had a dial, which had a "stop" at about the 320 degree mark, even though the dial could go further without the stop.

I think they ran much hotter than the reading on the indicator and had to be scaled back.

The true test, is to use an infrared heat gun, to see what the actual temps are.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 5 Apr 2006 by DGL

 

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 From:  John (ICTJOHN)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3411.6 In reply to 3411.5 

David,


You had me going there....... I thought I had replied to the wrong person :S 

I have 2 heat presses and the mug press --- I should get a digital readout device but it's one of those things waaaaaaay down on the "to do list"


Do you know how they work as far as: Do you have to aim them directly & squarely at the heat source. The reason I ask, my screen print dryer has 2 elect. heating elements that I need to cure the ink on t-shirts a 365 degrees. I use paper heat strips now and maybe use that as an additional excuses to buy a new TOY! I don't have a lot of room to aim it squarely at the elements as they are inside of a tunnel with only about 4" clearance, so I would have to shoot it from an angle.

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  John (ICTJOHN) 
3411.7 In reply to 3411.6 
John,

I don't have one of the guns. Harvey knows more about the way they work, with respect to what angles they may, or may not, read most accurately.

I remember Harvey saying something about reflective surfaces not being very condusive to an accurate reading, in which case, masking tape can be placed over the area you're trying to read.

I don't go as much by what my heat press thermostat says, as by knowing the effects of a press being either too hot or too cold, which keeps me in the ballpark.

I think some of the guns can be had for as little as $25.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  GBengraver 
3411.8 In reply to 3411.7 
Getting back to Greg's original question...

I have two Mug Pro presses from Novachrome. These are not the latest version. One is about 5 years old; the other about 4 1/2 years old.

Both are still going strong. If I were in the market for a new mug press, I would not hesitate to go with the same brand product.

As you are probably aware, these presses can do mugs and steins. But as has been pointed out, as is the case with virtually all the presses I'm aware of, you will need to leave a margin around the image: top, bottom and in proximity to the handle. This has not been an issue for us as we never were really interested in dong full coverage imaging. And we have done thousands of mugs and steins by now.

By the way, we originally started with another brand. It was so cumbersome that we immediately sent it back for a full refund and purchased the Mug Pro. The Mug Pro is about as easy to use as it gets.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  gt350ed 
3411.9 In reply to 3411.8 
Ed,

Another feature of the Novachrome Mug Pro, is the ability to use "Satellite" components, which are kinda pricey, but expand the use of the press to items other than mugs.

Of course, one of the satellite components is another mug press.

I realize I'm not telling you anything new. Just pointing out that info for the rest of our audience. :-) 

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Zonas
 To:  John (ICTJOHN) 
3411.10 In reply to 3411.4 

Geez, everybody answered for me, but they were correct. ;-)  I have the heat gun which is how I know what type of readings I'm getting. I 'cook' my mugs to 360 degrees inside opposite side of the handle centered from top to bottom. Great results every time - just ignore the digital readout.

Zona

 

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 From:  GBengraver
 To:  gt350ed 
3411.11 In reply to 3411.8 

Ed,
Have you ever uses mug wraps?

Cactus has a new one out that they claim is a much better way to go than with a press.

Seems to me the downside with them is that they take much longer to "bake" them than to press.

Up side is you can do multiple mugs at once, assuming that your oven can hold them. I'm in a store front so I don't have a full sized oven. I would need a toaster oven type oven.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Greg

"Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else."

EDITED: 5 Apr 2006 by GBENGRAVER

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  GBengraver 
3411.12 In reply to 3411.11 
Greg, I have never used mug wraps. Just never had the occasion to. Those that DO use them tend to swear by them. Maybe others that do use them will see this post and respond.

My opinion is that they ARE beneficial for quantities. But, then, you will be limited by the number of wraps you have versus how many you need. And then there are the logistics of having 10 mugs in the oven, all done at the same time, and having to use a wrench (I think) to unbolt each wrap. It's probably easier than I'm imagining.

On the otherhand, you would be surprised at how many mugs you can crank out in an hour alternating between two mug presses.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)
 To:  gt350ed 
3411.13 In reply to 3411.12 

One finished mug every two mins if you use a 4 min cycle with two presses. B-) 

Or one mug pro plus with a satelite...

Thanks,

Brian Genrich


Rallye Productions Inc.
1-800-236-2036 x112
Custom cut, or sheet stock Sublimatable metal,
Screen printing, and other digital print services.

 

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 From:  basehorawards
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3411.14 
This discussion has sparked my interest. I have a Hix flat press and have been very happy with it so I went to their web site. They have on for $781. How does that compare to the others discussed here? They also have a Glazer
quote:
Cures laser transfers onto mugs after they have been transferred in a mug press.

Do any of you use a glazer too? They want $240 for it.

James Smith

Basehor Awards & Trophies

 

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 From:  LipChip
 To:  basehorawards 
3411.15 In reply to 3411.14 

In regards to mug presses I've heard most of the best results come from the Nova Chrome USA press. Call Tim or John at Nova Chrome to find out which of their presses that is.

I myself use "only" mug wraps, and have found it to work with better results.

David L. Vernon
Lip Chip Solutions, Inc.
www.LipChip.com
818-363-8132

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  basehorawards 
3411.16 In reply to 3411.14 
James,

I haven't used a glazer.

The Hix full-wrap mug press, according to Mick, at Cactus equipment, is the design that all full-wrap presses are based on.

One aspect of a mug press, to look for, is its effective image area.
The heating blanket may look like it provides more coverage than the underlying heating element will support.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  basehorawards
 To:  LipChip 
3411.17 In reply to 3411.15 
What is a mug wrap?

James Smith

Basehor Awards & Trophies

 

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 From:  Mick
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
3411.18 In reply to 3411.16 

David
The Hix press isn't the design all are based on, Hix just happened to pick up the patent after it had legally expired when Sal Aramini (who got the patent) didn't pay maintainance fees ??? Questionable transaction that has cost Nova Chrome, Cactus and others many $$ and added to the cost of what you pay for a mug press.
It is cheaper to pay royalties than fight a patent.
Mick

Mick
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
www.cactus-equipment.com
800-440-6847

 

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 From:  LipChip
 To:  basehorawards 
3411.19 In reply to 3411.17 

A "mug wrap" is a product used in the Dye Sublimation and "I think" OEM laser technologies, to heat transfer under pressure that is applied by tighting the "mug wrap" around the mug with the image on a transfer paper lined up inside of the "mug wrap" onto a mug. With the "mug wrap" tightened down, we place the mugs in our convection oven as the source for transferring the images from the transfer papers onto the mugs. You can read all about "mug wraps" from the experts like Mick at Cactus Equipment who frequents this forum, as well as the www.dyesub.org forum.

Mick / Dave - I hope I somewhat explained how the mug wrap works. Mick also has a new mug wrap out which I have not tried yet.

David L. Vernon
Lip Chip Solutions, Inc.
www.LipChip.com
818-363-8132

 

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 From:  LipChip
 To:  basehorawards 
3411.20 In reply to 3411.17 
When it comes to "mug wraps" and mug presses, please follow Mick's suggestions and knowledge as he is one of the "top" people in the decoration world using various methods. He could also follow up to how the "mug wrap" is used in the OEM laser toner decoration business.

David L. Vernon
Lip Chip Solutions, Inc.
www.LipChip.com
818-363-8132

 
 
   
 

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