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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
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4002.1 

I just returned from the NBM show in Indy. This is a show combining printwear and embroidered goods, signs and engraving. My interest is, of course, engraving but I have to say that this show simply wasn't worth the time and expense.

This is a show which rotates yearly between Indy and Columbus and I can remember several years back when this show was outstanding. That is not the case any longer. There were a minimal number of displays and those were quite small. The laser engraver mfrs were all there including a new one from China ($11,000 for a 60 watt) I hadn't seen before, but the rest of the show was very weak.

I don't know that these remarks are appropriate for this forum and if they are not please feel free to delete them.

Mike

EDITED: 8 Jun 2006 by HARVEY-ONLY

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
4002.2 In reply to 4002.1 

Your experience and review are extremely appropriate for this forum. How else are we to make good decisions about what shows to see?

If someone disagrees with you they know that they are free to post their opinions.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

Harvey's Tips Page When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
4002.3 In reply to 4002.2 

Harvey:
Thanks, I thought that was the case but I have no interest in stepping on toes here.

Mike

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
4002.4 In reply to 4002.1 
Mike,

Those of us who have been in the industry for awhile (in my case 35 years) have seen the size of trade shows dwindle.

The NBM shows are a good way to see a variety of processes, although the various areas of endeavor are limited samplings, compared to those you might see at stand-alone shows, for the respective disciplines.

Many people attend the shows for the educational opportunities.

Did you attend any of the seminars?

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
4002.5 In reply to 4002.4 

David:

The seminar issue is a good point. I did not attend any seminars due to my schedule but I usually pick up my tutorials via the internet as my experience with seminars has been a bit disappointing.

I did find a promising wood supplier and suggested he contact you with a special offer so as to be listed in a free ad. I do not have my notes with me or I'd give you the name of the company.

A point of grand-parental pride: my schedule was pretty much dictated by whatever it took to attend my grandson's high school graduation in Dublin, Ohio. His was the first graduating class from a new school which had been split off from two other Dublin public schools.

My grandson did quite well witha 3.95 grade point average and several honors including an academic scholarship but what's really amazing is that this class of 311 kids graduated with a class GPA pf 3.7 with one of the state's two Presidents Scholar awards, one perfect score on the SAT and 7 National Merit Scholars.

Mike

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
4002.6 In reply to 4002.5 
Mike,

I don't know if the seminar instructors are the same, from show to show, but in looking at the lineup for the upcoming NBM show, in Long Beach, CA, there are a few familiar names/faces, but for the mostpart, I haven't heard of the instructors before.

It will be interesting to hear some feedback form people who attend their classes.

Congratulations to your grandson and his classmates. Very encouraging news.

His intelligence must have something to do with heredity. :-) 

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
4002.7 In reply to 4002.6 

David:

Thanks for the kind words but I think the IQ genes came from the other side of the family.

I would be interested in hearing about the other shows and seminars as well.

My experience with seminars has not been good though not necessarily because the instructor didn't have expertise in his field but because they were poorly prepared, unorganized or let attendees disrupt the flow to the extent that time ran out before they finished their agenda.

The bottom line is that I don't place a very high value on such seminars.

Mike

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
4002.8 In reply to 4002.7 
Mike,

I don't have much experience with attending live seminars. I've performed a few and the feedback has generally been all over the road.

Too advanced; not advanced enough; new information to me; nothing I didn't already know, etc., etc.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
4002.9 In reply to 4002.3 
quote:
Thanks, I thought that was the case but I have no interest in stepping on toes here.



Mike, why should you be different than anybody else? ( insert gregarious laugh here) :D 

 

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 From:  sroehlk (ELECTECH1)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
4002.10 In reply to 4002.1 

I agree this years show was not as good as previous ones.

I wrote a little bit on the dyesub.org forum.


Mostly it was the same displays, same products as the previous 2 shows.

The only thing I saw a little different was the direct to fabric printers with white ink and a new poly mug or plastic mug. A case of mugs only weighs 12 lbs. You can save a bundle on shipping. They weigh a lot less than ceramic mugs. But they are selling for a little over $2 ea in case lots. They would be ok for promotional mugs but not at $2 each blank.

The fabric printer that would print on black shirts needed a prep spray, heat pressed, printed, heat pressed again. All this for $13,000.00.

I am glad I live in Indy and did not drive too far.

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  sroehlk (ELECTECH1) 
4002.11 In reply to 4002.10 
I agree. JDS has those mugs now but they are pricy. I like the idea of that printer--there are 3 or 4 I guess but the white wasn't quite up to the opacity of screen printing. I suspect it won't be long until they have that solved as well. With prices for small machines from $13,000 to over $20,000 I think I'll be farming my jobs out. Thanks for your comment--I used to live in Broadripple back when Letterman was the weatherman. Mike
 
 
     
 

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