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 From:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.4 In reply to 4113.3 

What program do you run it with now?

I use a couple older Rolands, camm-1 & cm-24 but use corel with pro-cut and signmate express.

Puck


Puckerbrush
Engraving and Signs
http://www.puckerbrushengravingandsigns.com
 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) 
4113.5 In reply to 4113.4 
That's my problem. I have a brand new 24" Graphtec with NO cutting software. It did not come with any and I have not purchased any. So, my machine is just sitting...waiting.

In actuality, we have been so busy with the other aspects of our business that we have not had time to focus on what the cutter might do to enhance our bottom line (banners, stickers small signs, etc.) Not being prepared to go out and spend $700 or $800 for "real" cutting software, I was hoping to download a freeware program just to get me familiar with the equipment, layout, cutting, etc. So, I downloaded Vistool 6 the other day.

So far, my idea is not working.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.6 In reply to 4113.5 

OK.

What windows system are you using and I'll see if I can help out.

Puck


Puckerbrush
Engraving and Signs
http://www.puckerbrushengravingandsigns.com
 

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 From:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.7 In reply to 4113.5 

I just hooked up my cm-24 roland and cut a simple word layout off of it from vistool with out any problem. So let me know what your needing and I can probably walk you through the hook up maybe.

Puck


Puckerbrush
Engraving and Signs
http://www.puckerbrushengravingandsigns.com
 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) 
4113.8 In reply to 4113.6 
We have Windows XP and 98. We would likely run the Graphtec off of Windows XP.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) 
4113.9 In reply to 4113.7 
Please recognize that I have NO experience with a plotter/cutter. So, when I open up Vistool, I don't have a clue what to do or where to start.

The fact is that I have set the plotter up on it stand with the rollers, etc. and I have installed the Graphtec driver. That's it. I have not even installed the holder and cutter blade. Nor have I cabled it to the computer as yet.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.10 In reply to 4113.9 

gt350ed,

I will try and write down step by step for you to hook it up and give it a test run to make sure it will work with vistool. I'll PM them to you since probably nobody else needs instructions to do this if that OK with you?


Puck


Puckerbrush
Engraving and Signs
http://www.puckerbrushengravingandsigns.com

EDITED: 19 Jun 2006 by PUCKERBRUSH

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) 
4113.11 In reply to 4113.10 
I would consider that above and beyond the call of duty, but would be genuinely appreciative of your generosity and time. Yes, please send a PM.

Thank you.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.12 In reply to 4113.5 
Graphtech bundles software that will run out of illustrator.....do you have illustrator software?

Thanks,

Brian Genrich


Rallye Productions Inc.
1-800-236-2036 x112
Custom cut, or sheet stock Sublimatable metal,
Screen printing, and other digital print services.

 

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 From:  John (ICTJOHN)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.13 In reply to 4113.5 

Ed,

Can you run it out of CorelDRAW since you have the proper driver???? I use CorelDRAW for my Roland Printer/Cutter and have few problems on the cutout, when there is an issue, Weld/Trim/Intersect work fine. That way you can take your time looking for a true cutter software package while doing the more simple banners/signs and learning the basics.

 

btw, I was looking at a map the other day and finally found Victorville. You are just to the left of my sister..... how far and what is the driving time to Yucca Valley????

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1) 
4113.14 In reply to 4113.12 
Brian: Although I have several versions of Photoshop, unfortunately I do not have Illustrator. I should have, but I don't.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.15 In reply to 4113.14 

Hi Ed,

I just figured if you had it...that you would already be set to go, and might not be aware of the options that you had.

I use the plugin that they offer for Illustrator. We print on our Roland printer, laminate, and then cut on a 54" Graphtec FC7000. It works like a dream....

We can also use it for cutting vinyl without the registration.

Thanks,

Brian Genrich


Rallye Productions Inc.
1-800-236-2036 x112
Custom cut, or sheet stock Sublimatable metal,
Screen printing, and other digital print services.

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  John (ICTJOHN) 
4113.16 In reply to 4113.13 
When it comes to this cutter/plotter stuff, I'm thinking I must be dense or at least having a mental block. Some time ago, when I was talking to my Vision Engraver rep, he too mentioned that the Vision 7 software, which I have, could be used for my cutter/plotter.

Now you have mentioned using Corel. I have version 9 AND 12. Please tell me more, cause I haven't a clue. You would think that if my laser is just another "printer", so to speak, that runs Corel, why not the cutter/plotter? I'll be grateful for any assistance you can provide. I'm anxious to finally get up and running.

As for Victorville, our main artery is Interstate 15 which runs up out of the eastern Los Angeles basin and continues to Las Vegas, Salt Lake City and up into Montana. We are about 75 miles from Los Angeles and 175 miles from Las Vegas. We are in what's known as the High Desert (between 2300' and 4,000' elevation).

Yucca Valley is about 50 miles east of us.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  John (ICTJOHN)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.17 In reply to 4113.16 

Ed,

You are on the right track. You have Corel already installed, now install your driver for the cutter. Design your layout in Corel, keep it simple just do a couple of words right now, then print it to your cutter.

In complex designs where you have vector lines crossing over each other, you will need to eliminate that. When in "wireframe" mode you can see when lines will cut on top of each other. This is where Weld/Trim/Intersect/Simplify will come in handy.

Do some simple text only type banners at the start so that will give you the basic feel for what you are wanting to accomplish. Once you get the feel of it, that will give you time to determine which software package you will want to purchase to do more advanced designs. Some packages were mentioned in other posts, I don't have any suggestions there.

Smart Designer has an add-on for CorelDRAW to automatically convert vector images to be vinyl ready.


hth,

 

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 From:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.18 In reply to 4113.16 

gt350ed,

Sent you a PM on the setup last night, had trouble with the sending and getting on the forum last night so hope it went through.

Also sent the link for a coreldraw add on which works great for the $200
price tag. If your needing more info on how to set it up and use it with just plain old corel theres a good discussion on sign101.com on how to do it. Little to complex for me, I like the easy. (you set it up the same way I PM'd you with for the vistools, I.E. printer driver. That part I can do, it's the layout thats a learning curve.)

I tried hooking up both of my cutters with the serial cord this morning and can not get the program to run them, not sure if they are to old or the software download is missing the final cut manager since it seems to hang up on the stop and go buttons.

Puck


Puckerbrush
Engraving and Signs
http://www.puckerbrushengravingandsigns.com

EDITED: 20 Jun 2006 by PUCKERBRUSH

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) 
4113.19 In reply to 4113.18 
Actually, I thought maybe you were busy, but I never received a PM from you. Can you try again?

Thank you.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH)
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.20 In reply to 4113.19 

OK, sent another one to you just now. Check your PM Inbox.

Puck


Puckerbrush
Engraving and Signs
http://www.puckerbrushengravingandsigns.com
 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Puck (PUCKERBRUSH) 
4113.21 In reply to 4113.20 
Thank you! I received it.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  JHayes55
 To:  gt350ed 
4113.22 In reply to 4113.21 

Ed - I have been following this thread. I would suggest you consider Co-Cut Pro. This is the program that I spoke to you about before. Since you have went to the expense of a nice cutter why not finish the job with a cutting program that works trouble free. I know that it is an investment but consider the fact that while trying to figure out another cutting program that will not work as effective as it should you could be learning a professional program and making money. Would you give up Corel Draw for a program that is much less capable - like Windows Paint to do your graphic work?? It's like using a heat gun to make mugs vs using a mug press.

How about beveling plastic with a knife verses a beveler from Quality One?

I have made more profit with a vinyl cutter in one day than Co-Cut Pro cost.

Scape the mold off the money, and let the moths fly free - go get a decent program and pay the fee.

Joe
 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  JHayes55 
4113.23 In reply to 4113.22 
Thanks for the "advise", Joe, but the thread has to do with Vistool 6 and whether anyone on the forum had experience with it or could help me out with a manual or help files to allow me to use it to get comfortable with my first cutter/plotter with no previous experience. The download was free, and the software came with good recommendation.

I understand that you are very high on Co-Cut/Smart-Cut Pro cutting software. However, that was not the point of the thread. It just does not make sense to "learn" off of an $800 program from a company that has already proven to me that they are more interested in sales than in providing support. This is not an idle comment on my part. After spending $3,400 with them, I would expect more than the less-than-thorough manuals I have received in conjunction with their other products. And phone support is only "support" if you are calling to make another purchase.

Once I figure out the basics of a cutter/plotter, and get some comfortability with the equipment, I may very well buy a product such as Co-Cut/Smart-Cut. Just not now.

And this cutter/plotter scenario is not a top priority. We're busier than a one-armed wallpaper hanger as we approach our third anniversary with the store. It's just that I walk past this brand new machine and wish I had a clue...and some software, to see if it even works. B-) 

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 
 
   
 

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