Vision Engraving Machines - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	LipChip	1 Jul 2006
To:	ALL	1 of 8

4231.1

Hello to All:
I have a company I'm working with considering the smaller Vision Engraving machines for it's operation. Is anyone here on the forum using these machines? Can anyone speak up about these machines, with the professionals here on the forum explaining possible consideration for better small machines like these from Vision, and why.

Thank you very much, in advance!!

David L. Vernon
Lip Chip Solutions, Inc.
www.LipChip.com
818-363-8132

EDITED: 1 Jul 2006 by DGL

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	1 Jul 2006
To:	LipChip	2 of 8

4231.2 In reply to 4231.1
David, Vision machines have a good reputation. I've worked on a Vision 1624, which is a larger model, but the software would be the same for the smaller versions. Of the machines I've worked with, (New Hermes, Dahlgren, Newing-Hall and Vision), I prefer the letter quality of the New Hermes and Newing-Hall equipment. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	gt350ed	1 Jul 2006
To:	LipChip	3 of 8

4231.3 In reply to 4231.1
David, I have a new Vision Phoenix 1212 w/ Series III controller. So far, I like it, although we've been so busy that my two lasers are doing most of what we do, leaving little time for the learning curve and practice. As David L. mentioned, Vision has a great reputation. Their machines seem solidly built and the software is first rate in my "newbie" opinion. And, for whatever it is worth, the Phoenix 1212 has been around for a long time, although continuously upgraded. At least one other member of this forum, Zona, also has a Phoenix. She is way more experienced with hers. Perhaps she'll respoond to this thread. Otherwise, send her a PM. B-) Ed Holley Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co. and Coffee Mugs Online www.coffeemugsonline.com

From:	Zonas	3 Jul 2006
To:	LipChip	4 of 8

4231.4 In reply to 4231.1

Yes, I've had a Vision Phoenix (12x12) since 1996. Was my very first engraving machine so you know it had a very easy learning curve for a 100% newbie back then to catch on quickly. The company has stood behind their product, and I can still get parts after 10 years which says a lot in my opinion.

Zona

From:	Josh (WIZURD)	5 Jul 2006
To:	LipChip	6 of 8

4231.6 In reply to 4231.5

we use a 1212, 1624 and the vision max and have few complaints. The machines have run flawlessly for over 7 years, the support when we need it has been great and our rep has always had an answer whenever we have needed it.

If you have any questions about the machine, please feel free to give me a call.

BTW, I still can't convince my engravers to switch over to Vision Pro (EngraveLabs) from the old Vision for Windows software. Even though we use the old software, we are still pretty proficient.

From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	5 Jul 2006
To:	Josh (WIZURD)	7 of 8

4231.7 In reply to 4231.6

This pertains to my experience with New Hermes.

When I switched from the DOS style software, putting in all baselines, etc., to the WYSIWYG software it did give me a little trouble. It was easier because I have worked with Corel a lot.

My wife was virtually terrified. It took her a while to get the hang of it, but she now does things she never thought possible without even having to think about it.

Do the move. It may slow you down for a few days, but you will be really happy you did it within a week. You just have to get your mind out of thinking about the baselines and let the program do what it is made to do. If you do not like where something is visually, you have even more ability to move it.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

From:	Janet (JKSMITH)	7 Jul 2006
To:	LipChip	8 of 8

4231.8 In reply to 4231.1

I have had a Phoenix 1212 for 9 years, with a Series II controller.

This last winter I had my first problem with it and had to ship it all back to PHX for them to test and eventually replaced the rails. It was a hassle to ship it back/forth, but considering I've had to do nothing to the machine in 9 years I decided it wasn't bad.

I run Vision for Windows, as another replyer mentioned and it has been very sufficient for us. We are not a large shop but run the machine most days. I would like to try using Corel to engrave from, but haven't tackled it yet.

Janet Smith
Ted's Engraving