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 From:  cindy (ROBERTM)
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4562.1 

What would hold up better to wear and tear and scratches for name badges, Sublimation or the oem transfer?

Thanks Cindy

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  cindy (ROBERTM) 
4562.2 In reply to 4562.1 

Since sublimation beats even silk screening, I would have to say sublimation.

Anything that is inside the product lasts longer than anything on the surface.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  Mick
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
4562.3 In reply to 4562.2 

Harvey,
I need to send you some samples of name badges using OEM laser toners. I feel they hold up as good as most sublimation substrates.

Mick
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
www.cactus-equipment.com
800-440-6847

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  Mick 
4562.4 In reply to 4562.3 
I received some samples with the sample material and am impressed. All I did so far was a fingernail scratch test. Went to max fingernail pressure with a sharp fingernail and it had no affect on the clear/frosted. Did not have time to test the white. You came up with a really good substrate there, as usual.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  TD (DABNEYTR)
 To:  Mick 
4562.5 In reply to 4562.3 

Mick,
Did you use normal romark substrates and your versa transfer paper?

I was wondering if you have posted any pics and what settings or proceedure you used?

Thanks

 

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 From:  Mick
 To:  TD (DABNEYTR) 
4562.6 In reply to 4562.5 

I don't have any pictures here at home. The engraving plastics take a very good full color image. If you e-mail me your address I will send you a sample.

Mick Eminger
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
800-440-6847
mick.eminger@gmail.com

Mick
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
www.cactus-equipment.com
800-440-6847

EDITED: 11 Feb 2007 by MICK

 

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 From:  jpkevin
 To:  cindy (ROBERTM) 
4562.7 In reply to 4562.1 
You can take a Unisub FR Plastic name badge that has been sublimated and with a dime rub back and forth across the face of the plastic with a lot of pressure, and not scratch off the image. I have not seen any other process match that test.

Kevin Lumberg
Sublimation Specialist
Johnson Plastics
1-800-869-7800
kevinl@johnsonplastics.com

 

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 From:  logojohn
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4562.8 In reply to 4562.7 
I have tried all 3 brands of OEM laser paper( standard, not the new white method etc.) with a Konica Minolta 2400W and a cheap hobby press which may me part of the problem with consistent results Will likely get a better one soon.

If I have a large run of something I can ususally find the right temperature and procedure (pad, rotate and repeat, dwell time, peel cool or hot, etc.) But usually requires several test pieces to get the settings exact. Not something I want to use yet for onzie twozies.
Even then it is normal for one or several done exactly the same way in a series to not come out right. (Some or all of the color peels off, doesn't stick or the paper sticks too much or doesn't survive the fingernail durability test.)

There is also the problem of overheating, melting or warping engraving plastic or even thicker acrylic. I have only tried metal a couple times but that doesn't seem foolproof yet either.

It is still a handy tool for some things. It has bailed us out several times when an asi supplier messed up an order at the last minute and we had to figure out plan B.

If there is a sublimation option available like metal, FRP or the limited selection of products, that is my first choice for color marking even if the per piece cost is more. It is much more dependable for even quick onzie twozies and rare that I can't get good results on the first attempt.

lj

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  logojohn 
4562.9 In reply to 4562.8 
There are a few possibilities to inconsistent results.

  • Press temperature is varying.
  • Press pressure is varying.
  • Not enough pressure. Try a little more. Not too much more.
  • The substrate may have some stuff on it. Even a hair of a smudge of adhesive from a peel off sheet will make a non-stick surface.
  • The first piece needs about 5 seconds more than the rest.


Hope something here may be helpful.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 
 
     
 

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