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 From:  John (JOHN-BEVINS)
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4905.1 

Greetings Everyone,

I have a Vision Engraving Systems engraver and they recommend only using a silicone lubricant to lubricate the lead screws. Has anyone found one brand of spray on silicone better than the other? What brand of silicone lubricant do you guys use on your lead screws? The engraving machine was a big investment and I want to use the best silicone possible.

Thank you for your help
John Bevins
Fresno Engraving

 

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 From:  PenTrophy (PENINSULATROPHY)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.2 In reply to 4905.1 

Red X Lubricant

http://www.newing-hall.com/misc.html# bottom of page.

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Mark
In the Great Northwest!

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.3 In reply to 4905.1 

I have found silicon sprays to be too light weight for lead screws.

I use Super Lube grease. It is a silicon grease with Teflon particles in it. It is a super lube. In all my years of engraving I have never needed a replacement leadscrew, half nut, or rail. I retired my Dahlgren Wizard XL after over 12 years of hard use, and about 20 brush replacements, and 6 motors. The system is as tight as it was new.

I swear by Super Lube.

I have no connection to the manufacturers or distributers of this product. (I think you can find it in an Internet search. Get the small tube about 3oz, it will last a lifetime.)

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

EDITED: 20 Sep 2006 by HARVEY-ONLY

 

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 From:  John (JOHN-BEVINS)
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
4905.4 In reply to 4905.3 
Thank you Harvey for the information. Would you mind telling me the name of the company that makes Super Grease? If I were to purchase it I want to make sure that I get the same product that you use and not a product with the same or similar name.

Thank you,
John Bevins
Fresno Engraving
 

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 From:  Mick
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
4905.5 In reply to 4905.3 

Harvey
That is the same lube we stock and sell for lubricating our "Cactus Wraps". It works great at the 400-425 degrees we subject it to.
Mick Eminger
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
800-440-6847

Mick
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
www.cactus-equipment.com
800-440-6847

EDITED: 20 Sep 2006 by MICK

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.6 In reply to 4905.4 
I guess Mick answered the question.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  John (JOHN-BEVINS)
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
4905.7 In reply to 4905.6 

Hi Harvey,

No, Mick did not answer the question. I was looking for the name of the company that makes the Super Lube.

Thank you,
John Bevins
Fresno Engraving

 

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 From:  varn (VARNCO)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.8 In reply to 4905.7 

I think this is it...

Went from cactus web site to his east coast distributor, and found this

http://www.dye-sublimation-products.com/cgi-bin/sublimation-store/web_store.cgi?page=lubes.html&cart_id=1786953_28074

 

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 From:  varn (VARNCO)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.9 In reply to 4905.1 

I'd like to join this discussion as well, as I have a Vision Engraver.

My old engraver (Roland PNC) manual pretty much indicated that nothing had to be lubricated, just had to change out brushes in motor when they were worn.


But, the vision indicates weekly this, monthly that, etc. And it also warns against using certain lubricants that will "attract" particles.

So, lubricating a machine weekly is new to me.

Do the two lubricants recommended here not attract particles that will then get stuck in the threads or rails?

Thanks!

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.10 In reply to 4905.7 

This is the manufacturer. In small quantities Mick is probably cheaper.

http://www.super-lube.com/product_description.htm

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  varn (VARNCO)
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
4905.11 In reply to 4905.3 

Havey,

Do you use the Grease only (super lube) or do you also use the spray?

I'm lubing up a phoenix 1212... and it indicates use silicone oil, not grease, and then they offer a "dry spray"

Does it really matter?

Thanks.

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  varn (VARNCO) 
4905.12 In reply to 4905.11 

If the dry spray is cryogenicly processed Teflon, it too can't be beat. I had an application where even light camera oil made a pulley not fit on a shaft. The dry Teflon worked without changing the dimensions.

I am sure there is a very good silicon oil out there, I just do not know its name. Ask them which one they recommend.

When a grease is recommended Super Lube would be my choice.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

EDITED: 24 Dec 2006 by HARVEY-ONLY

 

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 From:  John (JOHN-BEVINS)
 To:  varn (VARNCO) 
4905.13 In reply to 4905.9 

Hi Varnco,

This is in reply to your Sept 22 message. Sorry I have not replied until now.

I went looking for silicon sprays and there are a number of them out there and they were not all the same. I paid a good amount of money for this machine and I want to use the best.

I called Vision regarding what I should use. They use a silicon spray made by 3M. You will have to call them to get the exact part number. Don't let them tell you that you can use just any silicon. Tell them you would like the part number off the can that they use.

I called 3M to get some and they would not sell it to me, that product is not allowed in California. Real bummber.

I hope this helps you,
John Bevins

EDITED: 26 Dec 2006 by JOHN-BEVINS

 

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 From:  varn (VARNCO)
 To:  John (JOHN-BEVINS) 
4905.14 In reply to 4905.13 

Thanks for the info.

I just bought super lube... grease, gel, spray, and oil.

Harvey swears by it, and looking at some specs on it and reviews people swear by it.

 
 
     
 

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