Editing a Font - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	basehorawards	5 Oct 2006
To:	ALL	1 of 13

5018.1
I have a Xenetech two line font that I would like to make a three line font. The font is called dlsent or dlscent. (I have both but have never been able to discover any difference.) My reason is that I have been asked to make a plaque to match an existing one. The previous engraver used dlsent two line on the header plate but it looks like a three line on the annual plates. James Smith Basehor Awards & Trophies

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	5 Oct 2006
To:	basehorawards	2 of 13

5018.2 In reply to 5018.1
James, Sounds like Double Line Century and a Triple Line Roman. I would think you'd have both in your native Xenetech fonts. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	basehorawards	5 Oct 2006
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	3 of 13

5018.3 In reply to 5018.2

Here is an export of the file I set up to engrave the new header plate. I used the dlsent font for it. The "J" in particular they like.
I looked at the annual plates again with a bigger magnifying glass and it is the same font. Text of some of the plates has been compressed horizontally so much that under low magnification it looks like a third line when it is actually just the paint chipped off.

Thanks for your help on this and everything else.

James Smith

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From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	5 Oct 2006
To:	basehorawards	4 of 13

5018.4 In reply to 5018.3
Good, old-fashioned Double Line Century. Adding a line to the font may be possible, but it would definitely be a little bit like Chinese Algebra. :-) David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	basehorawards	5 Oct 2006
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	5 of 13

5018.5 In reply to 5018.4
Well that clears up what dlcent means. Now I wonder where dlscent came from? Maybe a knockoff put on by the previous owner. James Smith Basehor Awards & Trophies

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	5 Oct 2006
To:	basehorawards	6 of 13

5018.6 In reply to 5018.5
James, I wondered that myself. Maybe whoever came up with that name is from the 20th scentury. :-) David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Dee (DEENA-ONLY)	5 Oct 2006
To:	basehorawards	7 of 13

5018.7 In reply to 5018.3

Jim,
I hope I am not insulting anyone here, but I think the previous engraver needs to learn how to kern the a & w and perhaps use paragraph compression depending on the look the customer wanted.

Dee

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

From:	Pedaler (ROYBREWER)	5 Oct 2006
To:	basehorawards	8 of 13

5018.8 In reply to 5018.1
James, The two double line century fonts are exactly the same. About 10 years ago, someone(whom I will not name) misspelled the font as he was building the installation program. It was hundreds of machines later that it was removed from the installation but those who had used DLSCENT (the misspelling) instead of DLCENT could no longer properly load those jobs. Xenetech decided to just leave it in the list both ways. If you do not have many layouts already pointing to the DLSCENT then I would suggest discarding it which is what I do for all new Xenetech installations. Roy Brewer http://www.engravingconcepts.com Epilog/Xenetech distributor
EDITED: 10 Oct 2006 by ROYBREWER

From:	basehorawards	6 Oct 2006
To:	Dee (DEENA-ONLY)	9 of 13

5018.9 In reply to 5018.7

Dee,

No toes were stepped on by your post. I matched what was done (and honestly did not even think about adjusting the kern.) I should have as I spent oven 10 years in printing in a past life. The previous engraver started his business selling trophies and mainly did just that through all the years he owned it. I don't think he gave much thought to kerning on trophy plates and it seems to have carried over to plaques.

James Smith

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From:	basehorawards	6 Oct 2006
To:	Pedaler (ROYBREWER)	10 of 13

5018.10 In reply to 5018.8

Roy,

Thanks for solving the mystery. I may take the time to go through my jobs and convert any that are dlscent to dlcent if some free time comes around. Fortunately right now I am pretty busy.

James Smith

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From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	6 Oct 2006
To:	Pedaler (ROYBREWER)	11 of 13

5018.11 In reply to 5018.8
I 'smell' a programmer that did not know what Cent stood for. Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem) When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

From:	Pedaler (ROYBREWER)	6 Oct 2006
To:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	12 of 13

5018.12 In reply to 5018.11
quote: I 'smell' a programmer... Harvey, As usual, you're right! Roy Brewer http://www.engravingconcepts.com Epilog/Xenetech distributor

From:	Tom Franklin (FLEA)	6 Oct 2006
To:	Pedaler (ROYBREWER)	13 of 13

5018.13 In reply to 5018.12

Once again, Roy Brewer comes through!! There isn't anyone better!

Sincerely,
Tom

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